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Proposed Base Closure 2005
2 Sept 03 | Email

Posted on 09/02/2003 9:21:06 AM PDT by SLB

For Your Info. The Army bases currently proposed for closure or realignment in 2005 include: Carlisle Barracks, Pennsylvania; Detroit Arsenal, Michigan; Fort Belvoir, Virginia; Fort Buchanan, Puerto Rico; Fort McPherson/Gillem, Georgia; Fort Monmouth, New Jersey; Fort Monroe, Virginia; Fort Polk, Louisiana (to realign); Fort Richardson, Alaska; Fort Sam Houston, Texas; Fort Shafter, Hawaii; Lima Army Tank Plant, Ohio; Natick Soldier Center, Massachusetts; Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey; Redstone Arsenal, Alabama; Rock Island Arsenal, Illinois; Sierra Army Depot, California; and Yuma Proving Ground, Arizona.

Air Force base closures and realignments include: Altus AFB, Oklahoma; Beale AFB, California; Brooks AFB, Texas; Cannon AFB, New Mexico; Columbus AFB, Mississippi; Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota; Goodfellow AFB, Texas; Grand Forks AFB, North Dakota; Hanscom AFB, Massachusetts; Kirtland AFB, New Mexico; Los Angeles AFB, California; McConnell AFB, Kansas; Nellis AFB, Nevada (to realign); Seymour Johnson AFB, North Carolina (to realign); Shaw AFB, South Carolina; and Vance AFB, Oklahoma.

The Air Force will lose 2,260 military and 2,839 civilian manpower positions, and 1,055 reserve drill authorizations next year, according to the 2004 force-structure announcement released July 23.

Many bases, both active duty and reserve component, are affected by the realignment. In many cases, units will gain aircraft and missions, while others will pare down.

Besides manpower reductions, the realignment formally announces the retirement of the C-9A Nightingale and KC-135E Stratotanker aircraft. According to Air Force officials, the 20 C-9s are being retired because of reduced-patient movement, range limitations and increasing maintenance and upgrade costs. The aeromedical-evacuation mission will become a requirements-based system using all passenger-capable aircraft.

The service will retire 44 of the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve Command's 43-year-old KC-135Es next year, replacing them with 24 KC-135Rs from the active-duty fleet. By the end of fiscal 2006, the Air Force will have retired 68 of the KC-135Es.

Naval base closures and realignments include: Ingleside Naval Station, Texas; Naval Postgraduate School, California; Naval Air Station Meridian, Mississippi; Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst, New Jersey; Naval Recreation Station Solomons Island, Maryland; Naval Surface Warfare Center Crane, Indiana; Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division, Virginia; Navy Supply Corps School, Georgia; New Orleans Naval Support Activity, Louisiana; Pascagoula Naval Station, Mississippi; Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, New Hampshire; and Saratoga Springs Naval Support Unit, New York.

Marine base closures and realignments include: Marine Corps Logistics Base Albany, Georgia; Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, California (realignment); Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, California; Marine Corps Mountain Warfare School, California; Marine Reserve Support Unit, Kansas City; and Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego, California (realign or close).


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: baseclosure; dahlgren; fortbelvoir; fortmonroe; militarybases
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I don't know if this is authentic or not. I would say it is probably at the 95% level. I posted to breaking as if you live near one these bases, rely on it for park of your income, and it closes you could be broke.
1 posted on 09/02/2003 9:21:06 AM PDT by SLB
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To: SLB
Are there any domestic bases left?
2 posted on 09/02/2003 9:23:49 AM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: SLB
not Fort Rich!!!!
3 posted on 09/02/2003 9:27:02 AM PDT by cherry
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To: My2Cents
I am surprised that both Ft Riley, KS and Ft Carson, CO escaped.
4 posted on 09/02/2003 9:28:08 AM PDT by SLB
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To: cherry
The infrastructure at Ft Wainwright is being beefed up. Ever wonder why?
5 posted on 09/02/2003 9:29:38 AM PDT by SLB
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To: SLB
Looks like a good list.

Haven't I heard that Sierra Depot in CA was a nuke site? If so, contamination might make that impossible to close.

The Lima Tank Plant is, I think, the only tank production line that we have. I'll be surprised to see it close -- if that's true.

6 posted on 09/02/2003 9:30:43 AM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning Was the Word!)
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To: SLB; hchutch
Wow. They're retiring the KC-135Es, which are not so much aircraft as they are a collection of overaged spare parts flying in loose formation. I rode one from Okinawa to the Philippines in 1986. You know how the Pope kisses the ground when he gets off of the airplane? I was doing that, too!
7 posted on 09/02/2003 9:30:50 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: My2Cents
not Fort Sam Houston, Texas?
8 posted on 09/02/2003 9:31:02 AM PDT by shiva
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To: SLB
I'm a bit skeptical of the list...not that the originator doesn't have valid information...there are installations listed or unlisted that don't make sense.

Goodfellow AFB is the site for much of the services' intelligence training. If it closes, that mission shifts here to Ft. Huachuca. The enviro-Nazis have been quite litigious in their efforts to stop growth at Ft. Huachuca and will more than likely continue to fight against the closure of any base that increases mission here.

Red River Army Depot is not on the list. RRAD has been sweating closure through the last 3 rounds of BRAC. They are one of 3 army depots that still 'bend iron', and as such, perform a vital mission for the Army. I believe Picatinny and Rock Island are the others. They are both on the list...does that mean that, contrary to the fears of the folks in Texarkana, RRAD is about to pick up the entire mission from the other two? Hard to say...
9 posted on 09/02/2003 9:31:07 AM PDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...)
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To: SLB
IIRC, Fort Wainwright is getting some of the National Missile Defense components.
10 posted on 09/02/2003 9:31:27 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: SLB
Personally, I doubt this is authentic. And if it is, I doubt it will carry much weight with the panel that will actually be making these recommendations.

First, I suspect that panel will guard it's work extremely closely. Second, law envisions shutting down as much as 25% of all base capacity in the U. S. (that's more than all the other base closings in the past put together), and this list looks much too short to meet that goal.

11 posted on 09/02/2003 9:31:31 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: xzins
It's possible that the Lima Tank Plant is picking up mission from another depot, perhaps the one in Detroit.

I believe the list if both closures and plus-ups.
12 posted on 09/02/2003 9:32:55 AM PDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...)
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To: SLB
SPOTREP
13 posted on 09/02/2003 9:35:17 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: HiJinx
Anniston Army Depot is the main rebuild site for the Army. RRAD might stay on board due to some foreign contracts that would go through there. As far as Picatinny goes - the price of real estate there is enough to make you cringe if you get assigned there. Rock Island is also an R&D center like Picatinny. These missions are being picked up by TRADOC organizations as the Army Material Command downsizes.
14 posted on 09/02/2003 9:36:11 AM PDT by SLB
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To: SLB
Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, New Hampshire

That sucks for my home state - If I recall, Pease AFB was closed some time ago - now this? A lot of memories from those two bases - Pease Air Force Base is where I went on many encampments and OJT stuff with Civil Air Patrol, and Portsmouth is where I learned a lot about submarine history - that was one reason I joined the navy to begin with... bummer

15 posted on 09/02/2003 9:36:25 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Chad Fairbanks - 1970 Recipient of the Prestigious Y-Chromosome Award)
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To: Poohbah
What do you know about the KC-135?
16 posted on 09/02/2003 9:39:21 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: HiJinx
I too, am skeptical. Goodfellow has had millions poured into it in the last 10 years. To move to Ft Huachuca...would mean another $20 million (to build the barracks, the teaching facilities, an additional chow hall, etc). I think congress will ask alot of questions about that closure. The logic here, I am guessing, is that intelligence can be taught in a joint atmosphere...which has yet to ever be proven.

As for the rest of the list....some have been on the potential closure list (Columbus AFB, MS) for almost 20 years...and political support kept coming back to be a major problem in closing the installation. I suspect that Rumsfeld is simply going to put everything on the list possible and simply laugh at congress when they start hinting of cutting their support on DOD programs. He doesn't really care if they decide upon revenge for closing special bases.

My gut feeling is that half of these installations will be removed by the time it gets to the final delivery point. Whether or not Bush is around when this closure business starts...is another question...but I can't see congress smiling this time around and just letting a bunch of bases or installations close in their home state.
17 posted on 09/02/2003 9:41:05 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SLB
Oh so sad (personal note) ... grew up at Fort Shafter and Picatinney Arsenal (we lived on the Arsenal).
18 posted on 09/02/2003 9:42:54 AM PDT by zeaal
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To: SLB
This is not authentic IMHO. They would be closing almost every training base we have in the AF. Not to mention several of the bases listed are storage facilities for material that is not easily transferred. Don't know where this came from but it will never pass!

As far as I know the Air Force has not even come up with a list. Not to mention LA is an AFS not an AFB. I can see LA AFS and Hanscom closing -- some of the others no way!
19 posted on 09/02/2003 9:43:07 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too!)
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To: Poohbah
We should have bought more KC-10s when we had the chance...

Heck, why not buy a bunch of 767 or 747 airframes for tanking and other missions?
20 posted on 09/02/2003 9:43:39 AM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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