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(Michael) Moore alters "Bowling" DVD in response to criticism (& issues libel threat to his critics)
Spinsanity ^ | September 2, 2003 | Brendan Nyhan

Posted on 09/02/2003 12:33:12 AM PDT by Timesink

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There are so many possible punchlines here ... why not pick your own?
1 posted on 09/02/2003 12:33:13 AM PDT by Timesink
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"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true. And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel."

Even that that "fact" isn't true. If it's said, it's slander.
2 posted on 09/02/2003 12:39:25 AM PDT by Sapper26
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Ahh...but did you catch Moore's liberal doublespeak?

"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true."

Yes, I'm sure that every FACT is true; that's why they're called facts. But what he did not claim--what he CANNOT claim--is that the movie is factual. Taking a scripted concoction of propaganda and lies and sprinkling in a few true facts does not make a fictional movie into a documentary.

3 posted on 09/02/2003 12:44:32 AM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: Timesink
Hmm...

"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true. Including any facts I may have changed or even outright reversed at any point. And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel. And anyone who criticizes me is a meanie. And I'll tell my mommy on them. "

I guess by Moore logic, I could claim this is an exact quote. And anyone who disagrees is engaged in libel....right?
4 posted on 09/02/2003 12:44:38 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: Timesink
The left thinks the right is crazy. Where is the right's equivelent of Moore and Franken? I rest my case.
5 posted on 09/02/2003 12:46:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Sapper26; Timesink
It's not lying or making up things,it's " Paraphrasing"!
6 posted on 09/02/2003 12:49:33 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Timesink
"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true. And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel."

Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them :)

7 posted on 09/02/2003 12:58:22 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: DoughtyOne
They're not crazy. Lib's are just 'passionate' when expressing their views.
8 posted on 09/02/2003 1:02:16 AM PDT by Sapper26
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To: Timesink
Even the statement that there was "carpet bombing" that killed thousands upon thousands of civilians is a lie, though in fairness, Moore might never have heard the truth of that matter.
9 posted on 09/02/2003 1:08:47 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Sapper26
"They're not crazy. Lib's are just 'passionate' when expressing their views."

The Second Coming -- W. B. Yeats

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity
.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

10 posted on 09/02/2003 1:09:57 AM PDT by boris (Education is always painful; pain is always educational.)
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The left thinks the right is crazy. Where is the right's equivelent of Moore and Franken? I rest my case.

Don't forget perinial Democrat presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche

11 posted on 09/02/2003 1:12:30 AM PDT by weegee
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...filmmaker Michael Moore has altered a caption that he fictitiously inserted into a 1988 Bush-Quayle campaign commercial

I wonder if the packaging will alert consumers that the movie has been altered from its theatrical (and Oscar winning) presentation. I won't hold my breath.

I wouldn't expect any DVD critics to take issue with this either. Only a few expressed slight outrage that the boos Hillary received at the Concert for NYC were overdubbed with cheers. This altered the views of the firemen and policemen gathered (the persons being thanked at the concert). Viacom should have edited the clip out altogether rather than to fake a historic moment.

12 posted on 09/02/2003 1:16:44 AM PDT by weegee
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To: Timesink
Also new today:

Did Michael Moore deceive Academy? [Recent Movie] failed to meet Oscar submission rules

13 posted on 09/02/2003 1:24:10 AM PDT by weegee
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Lumpy Reifenstahl wrote, "if I state something as a fact, I need the viewers to trust that those facts are correct"

QUESTION AUTHORITY. If his research is above reproach he should not mind investigations into his work.

14 posted on 09/02/2003 1:27:07 AM PDT by weegee
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Somehow I doubt that Mr. Moron's bit of agitprop mentions that Albert Gore Junior was the first candidate to bring up Willie Horton (when he was competing for the Rat party nomination against Michael Dukakis).
15 posted on 09/02/2003 1:30:36 AM PDT by weegee
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Michael Milli Vanilli Moore - his mouth is movin' but nothing honest coming out.
16 posted on 09/02/2003 2:59:55 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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Here are my thoughts.

MIchael Moore can threaten to sue all he wants but no civil judgment against anyone is going to change the reality that everything in this movie is a bald-faced lie. Now that's just all there is to it and he needs to learn to accept that he is simply not entitled to his own set of "facts."

17 posted on 09/02/2003 3:59:00 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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MIchael Moore can threaten to sue all he wants but no civil judgment against anyone is going to change the reality that everything in this movie is a bald-faced lie. Now that's just all there is to it and he needs to learn to accept that he is simply not entitled to his own set of "facts."

Someone with time and money should take Moore up on his threat. It would be gratifying to see him have to defend the "facts" in his movie in a court of law. But, of course, like everything he does, the threat is just bluster. He'd never give his critics the chance to evicerate him like that.

18 posted on 09/02/2003 4:28:59 AM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
Excellent point. BTTT!!!!!
19 posted on 09/02/2003 5:04:14 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Timesink
bump for future reference
20 posted on 09/02/2003 7:02:12 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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