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When Sex Ed Becomes Porn 101
Heritage Foundation ^ | 8/27/03 | Robert E. Rector

Posted on 09/01/2003 9:31:21 AM PDT by Jean S

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To: Hildy
"I don't know...it seems to me that the allure of sex is taken away when some geeky teacher is putting a condom on a cucumber!"

The part that always freaked me out as a kid came afterwards, when the teacher and the cucumber would share a cigarette in front of the class... :)

21 posted on 09/01/2003 1:10:25 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: JeanS
The Commonwealth of VA allows parents to "opt-out" our children of Family Life Education--AKA Sex Ed. My 10th and 8th graders have never attended a class.
22 posted on 09/01/2003 1:21:55 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Hildy
My kids are in a Catholic school here in Chicago and they sent a flier home to prepare us parents for the sex eductation package about to be presented to my eleven year old boy. It all looked good, but they omitted the section about masturbation and it definitely felt like they were holding back. My guy was a little shook up about the whole thing and his mother and I were left telling him about how he came in to the world and that he was wanted very much.

I don't really think that the kids that age are really that ready for the gritty details that Jocelyn Elders wants us all to know about.

23 posted on 09/01/2003 1:27:22 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Fetch this!)
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To: pram
Every single syllable of what you said is, unfortunately, correct.
24 posted on 09/01/2003 1:29:59 PM PDT by steve86
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To: JeanS
nothing like having responbile 12 year olds having sex,orgies and watching hard core porn,while taxpayers are footing the bill to teach them this stuff.......
25 posted on 09/01/2003 1:57:05 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: mattdono
This is insane.

It is evil.

There is a difference and there is an enemy.

26 posted on 09/01/2003 1:59:29 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: TalBlack
It's over, folks. There is a bit of inertial roll left but, basically, for the culture, it's over. And culture being literally the manufactory of the person/citizen...well it's over.

You wouldn't believe what you would see if you could look a mere five years into the future. You wouldn't recognize your own nation. Interesting times ahead.

I share your pessimism but also an optimism that things will eventually be put right again -- that the moral upside down world will right itself (with God's help). But I don't expect that to happen during my lifetime, nor do I expect a historical footnote called the "United States of America" to serve as a vessel for the renaissance of that which is right.

I don't recognize "my nation" as it is; haven't since around 1960 when the decay began. As it is now, I feel sufficiently disillusioned to stop voting as all political parties have been complicit in this to one degree or another. And with candidates like Schwarzenegger campaigning under the Republican banner it seems the difference among parties has become microscopic with respect to moral issues.

I won't respond to flame posts.

27 posted on 09/01/2003 2:01:11 PM PDT by steve86
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To: JeanS
I've started homeschooling this year. It's comforting to know my children will be receiving a real education.
28 posted on 09/01/2003 2:42:43 PM PDT by kuma
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To: JeanS
Some ‘grocery store’ lubricants are safe to use if they do not contain oil: grape jelly, maple syrup and honey.”

Idiots. I won't elaborate...

29 posted on 09/01/2003 4:28:36 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (This cow is independently owned and operated)
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To: Archangelsk
Ol' Rob looks like he wears polyester leisure suits, platform shoes, and lots of gold chains. What a maroon...

Yeah and he drives a pimped out Caddy!
30 posted on 09/01/2003 4:31:10 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (This cow is independently owned and operated)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I had to sit and listen to a sex ed class this last spring semester...in community college. The middle aged woman who gave the lecture was a nasty old bitch. She made everyone uncomfortable, and after she left I told the professor that I felt that the subject could have been handled in better taste. The boys (young men...but I have kids older than most of the kids in that class)were embarassed beyond belief. The exchange students were horrified.

I would have loved to debate her on such statements, such as: "if you have a child before you're ready, you'll hate them". Real piece of work with an agenda...
31 posted on 09/01/2003 4:40:28 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (This cow is independently owned and operated)
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To: drhogan
the author of the article should have provided more specific information about how many high schools are doing the things he describes

Wouldn't one be too many?

32 posted on 09/01/2003 4:40:48 PM PDT by itsahoot
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To: JeanS
This is just one more reason my children will be attending a private, Christian school. They learn about sex and morality, and right vs. wrong where they should, at home and in church.
33 posted on 09/01/2003 4:53:08 PM PDT by WestPacSailor (Sorry folks, this tagline's closed. The moose out front should of told you.)
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To: WestPacSailor
This is just one more reason my children will be attending a private, Christian school. They learn about sex and morality, and right vs. wrong where they should, at home and in church.

You are not Episcopalian, are you?

34 posted on 09/01/2003 4:54:17 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: upright_citizen
...about women's "cycles" and menopause and erectile dysfunction and things like that.

Erectile dysfunction information for teenaged boys?? It's been a while but the only erectile dysfunction that I seem to recall was...Oops. Never mind

35 posted on 09/01/2003 5:08:50 PM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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To: sd-joe
Sounds very "onion" like. With a name like that this article has to be a joke.
36 posted on 09/01/2003 5:14:49 PM PDT by Queen Jadis
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To: Queen Jadis
I wish it were. I am afraid it is not.
37 posted on 09/01/2003 5:55:26 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: JeanS
Focus on Kids also has teachers stage “condom races” between teams of students. (Warning: Explicit language ahead.) “Each person on the team must put the condom on the dildo or cucumber and take it off,” the program says. “The team that finishes first wins.”

What sort of person advocates making sex a "game" for children? Could it be......a pervert?

38 posted on 09/01/2003 6:32:39 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: upright_citizen; Archangelsk; mtbopfuyn
Maybe the content of sex-ed varies with your location. Do any of you live in CA? Because in the great state of California, it has been mandatory since 2001 to teach kids - kindergarten through 12th - the positives about the gay lifestyle, and any disapproval by kids renders them a target. I read a letter in the Eureka, CA paper from a kid who, when asked during the sex-ed class, if any kids though being "gay" was wrong, raised her hand. She was then placed in the center of a circle, and all the other kids and the special sex-ed teachers (from Planned Parenthood) jeered and mocked her, so she could know what "gays" went through. The kid was 12.

Routinely kids are not given the "excuse slips" they are supposed to take to their parents, and the graphic nature of the material is not told to parents.

Why do you automatically not believe this article, and others like it? When I lived in Eugene, OR, I read all kinds of letters in the paper - some from high school students - outraged at the explicit sex-promotion (of all varieties) they had to endure in school.

39 posted on 09/01/2003 7:42:42 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: upright_citizen
As for depicting abstinance as something that kids in the "real-world" will forsake, It would be naive to think that even 5% of the teens in those classes will abstain from premarital sex.

You need to check your figures. Actually, the percentage of high school age kids who are saving sex until later is increasing, and it's no where NEAR 95% sexually active! I can't remember the last figures I've seen - I'll try to find some. But your estimate is way wrong!

40 posted on 09/01/2003 7:46:40 PM PDT by First Amendment
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