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Bustamante tied to student racist group: Former MEChA member now wants to be Calif governor ^ | Friday, August 29, 2003

Posted on 08/29/2003 12:39:40 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Republican Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi was forced to step down from his position as majority leader earlier this year after he made supportive comments about Sen. Strom Thurmond's 1948 presidential bid on a segregationist ticket. Democrats have tried to make an issue out of the fact that California Republican gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger's father was a member of the Nazi Party.

But, say critics, some of those same voices are giving a pass to California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante over his past association with what they have characterized as a Hispanic student hate group on par with the Ku Klux Klan.

During his college days at Fresno State University in the 1970s, Bustamante was associated with a little-known group called the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan, or MEChA. The group, which has college chapters on 300 campuses – 100 in California alone – has adopted as its motto: "For the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing."

It is a group that is accustomed to creating violence to get its way. Fox News reported that in 1993 students at UCLA caused $500,000 in damages to the university while demanding a Chicano Studies department. Later, in 1996, "Mechistas" – the name group members call themselves – were videotaped beating up demonstrators protesting illegal immigration.

Yet, so far in his campaign Bustamante, the No. 1 Democrat candidate for governor, has neither disassociated himself with MEChA, nor explained his earlier membership, critics said.

In her Aug. 20 syndicated column, Michelle Malkin said Bustamante "repeatedly denies having a 'radical ethnic agenda,' but has refused to disassociate himself from his Mechista roots."

"In fact, Bustamante recently returned to Fresno State for a separate Latino commencement ceremony founded by two of his Chicano activist classmates," she said.

Supporters have tried to mitigate Bustamante's membership in the group, if not the group's radical agenda.

"Whatever you did in your youth, it's what you did at time. You can't disassociate from past," Manuel Olgin, a former MEChA member and now a counselor at Fresno University, told Fox News. "Now if you're still plugged in and doing stuff, that's a another question. But this is immaterial to me."

Others said Bustamante was just a "moderate" member of the group, not a radical.

"His involvement in MEChA was not in a leadership position. His involvement was in being a member and doing what he could. He was involved at a higher level and that level was in student government," Tony Garduque, another former MEChA member, told Fox News.

But critics don't accept that view.

"What is a moderate member of a racist organization? 'I was a moderate member of the Klan.' Imagine if a Republican made that statement," radio talk-show host and WorldNetDaily columnist Larry Elder told the news channel.

MEChA specifically encourages its Chicano and Chicana members to put "raza," or their race, above all others. And, the group promotes the liberation of "Atzlan," which includes a major portion of the U.S. southwest Mechistas believe was stolen from Mexico by the United States.

"In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal 'gringo' invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility and our inevitable destiny," says the opening passage of "El Plan De Atzlán, a treatise developed and adopted by Mechistas.

"We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent," the treatise says, which is posted on the University of Oregon website.

Bustamante is not the only elected official with MEChA ties. Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., also claims former membership in the group.

The Arizona Wildcat, the University of Arizona's daily newspaper, confirmed Grijalva's past in a story it ran Nov. 10, 1997, about a "MEChA reunion."

"They had long hair, wore military fatigues and brown berets and were angry and confrontational," the paper said. "Fists in the air, Chicano student activists in the late 1960s marched on high-school and college campuses throughout the American Southwest with voices so loud it was impossible for history to forget them. This is what alumni of Movimiento Estudiantil de Chicanos de Atzlán told their younger brethren at MEChA's 30th anniversary celebration. …"

As for the organization's treatise, "substitute 'Aryan' for 'mestizo' and 'white' for 'bronze,'" write Malkin, and there's "not much difference between the nutty philosophy of Bustamante's MEChA and Papa Schwarzenegger's evil Nazi Party" or, as other critics have pointed out, the Klan.

"Like Nazism, MEChA has acquired more than a tinge of racism," Lowell Ponte noted in a column for FrontPage "In their tactics to advance Latinos and 'La Raza,' many of its activists have directed racist attacks against not only white-skinned Anglos but also against blacks, Asian-Americans and Jews – in fact, against every non-Latino group."

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Friday, August 29, 2003

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1 posted on 08/29/2003 12:39:41 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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This deserves a front page headline in the L.A. Times but they'd have to take a negative Schwarzenegger article out to fit it in. The Slimes is so in love with Busty that they may also be hoping to be the most read newspaper in Aztlan. Busty is darn scary, man.

And the N word does NOT just slip out of mouths that aren't used to saying it.

2 posted on 08/29/2003 12:46:41 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: JohnHuang2
Yes, the SAME MEChA we've been trying to get people to read about for well over a YEAR here!!! A VERY dangerous radical RACIAL group!!!
3 posted on 08/29/2003 12:49:39 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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Exactly. It's a violent hate America, hate all whites group. No better than the KKK.
4 posted on 08/29/2003 12:53:24 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Yaelle
This deserves a front page headline in the L.A. Times ...


5 posted on 08/29/2003 12:54:14 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
They MEAN It. They are on a multitude of colledge campuses, and PLAN on taking back THEIR land. They even state that they will kill FEDERAL PIGS from immigration who try to send back illegal immigrants.

What is sickening.. is we afford then meeting places on our schools. From Jr. High, to High School and up. They can preach their hatred and anti-Americanism there, but God Forbid that you teach boyscouts there!!

They want their land back.

Here is the website. I could find stuff I've saved on them for you when I have a chance. I promise will blow you away. No one is on gaurd with this group. NO ONE!!

If 9-11 scared you..hold on for this:

An Atomic Explosion Coming Soon
to your City
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California - November 15, 2002 - (ACN) The Brazilian journalist Pepe Escobar who writes for the Hong Kong based Asian Times reported yesterday in an article titled "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" that "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned in seven of America's major cities and they are ready to be detonated." Pepe Escobar is no slouch. On August 30, 2001 he predicted the World Trade Center terrorist attack in an article titled, "Get Osama! Now! Or else " in which he reported for the Asian Times on a meeting between the Taliban and al Qaeda.

Today the Asian Times, which primarily focuses on Asian business and finance, removed the article from their website and is now saying that it removed it because they later determined it was a hoax. This is very strange!

Pepe Escobar's "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" reported on an interview conducted by the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera television station of Mohammed al-Usuquf, a top al-Qaeda leader. According to Escobar, Al-Usuquf says that al-Qaeda's Kuwaiti spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, and bin Laden himself, suggested that he grant the interview. Bin Laden, al-Usuquf says, is "alive and healthy, along with his commanders Mohammed Atef, Khalid Shaik Mohammed and Mullah Omar".

Pepe Escobar's account of the Al-Jazeera interview is as follows:

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Al-Usuquf starts by criticizing Washington's disrespect of the Kyoto Protocol on climatic change, the International Criminal Court and the Palestinian cause, as well as the "financial greed" engendering speculative gains over Third World countries. He also criticizes the manner in which America wastes wealth, like US$80 billion a year on gambling. "They [have] lost the notion of spirituality and only live in sin."

For this reason, America must be destroyed, and al-Usuquf insists that "aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines and spy satellites will be worthless in the next war".

Al-Qaeda, according to him, has 5,000 first rank operatives and around 20,000 all over the world. Of all the prisoners in the US, only "20 or 30" are al-Qaeda, and all of them "second-rank". Confirming Asia Times Online information, he swears that there are no first-rank prisoners in Guantanamo in Cuba. Al-Usuquf says, "We have more than 500 first-rank and 800 second-rank [operatives] inside the US." "First rank" are considered ones that have lived in the US for more than 10 years, most of them married with children. "They have an idea about the plans, and they are just waiting for a call." "Second-rank" operatives arrived in the past five years and "have no idea about the plans". They are all willing to die.

Al-Usuquf insists that September 11 "was just the beginning. It was a way to call the world's attention to what's going to happen." He then details a plan to destroy the US by "attacking the heart of what they consider the most important thing in the world: money".

"The American economy is an economy of false appearances," says al-Usuquf. "There's no real economic weight. American GNP is something around $10 trillion, but only 1 percent comes from agriculture, and only 24 percent from industry. So 75 percent of its GNP comes from services, and most of it is financial speculation. For someone who understands economics, and apparently America's Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill does not, or cannot, the US as a whole behaves like an immense, and dollars are its stocks. The value of stocks from a given company is directly proportional to its profitability. When a company only provides services, but does not produce goods, the value of its stocks depends on its credibility. What I'm saying is if US credibility is affected, its stocks - the US dollar - will fall at tremendous speed, and the whole American economy will collapse."

Al-Usuquf is absolutely positive, "because, in a smaller scale, this is exactly what big financial conglomerates do with Third World countries to collect profits in one month that no Swiss bank would guarantee in four to five years". Al-Usuquf says that al-Qaeda could do the same by "provoking a deficit of $50 to 70 trillion, the equivalent to five to seven years of the GNP of the US". How? By "destroying America's seven largest cities and some other measures". The means? "Atomic bombs." Al-Usuquf's most startling revelation is that the bombs "won't be launched, they are already there". "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned on American soil, before September 11, and they are ready to be detonated. Before September 11, American security was a fiasco, and even later, if we needed, we could position the bombs there. They arrived through seaports, as normal cargo. A nuclear head is not bigger than a fridge, so it can easily be camouflaged as one. Thousands of containers arrive at a seaport every day, and even with very efficient security, it's impossible to check and examine each one of them."

Al-Usuquf says that the bombs were bought on the black market: five from the former USSR and two from Pakistan. The five Russian heads "are from T-3 missiles, also known as RD-107, and their power is around 100 kilotons each, that is five times the Hiroshima bomb. The Pakistani ones are less powerful, something around 10 kilotons each."

Each of the Russian bombs would have cost around $200 million. Al-Qaeda was able to raise the money "because we have many sponsors. Many countries sponsor us, and also some very rich people." And not all of these are Arab countries. "Some European countries as well are also interested in the fall of the US." As to the "rich people", they are "people who are also tired of seeing the US bleeding the rest of the world."

And Iraq's Saddam Hussein, says Al-Usuquf, is not one of these people, "but just a collaborator, represented by Abdul Tawab Hawaish, his vice prime minister and responsible for Iraq's arms program".

Al-Usuquf says that the bombs cannot be detected by US authorities. "Even if they are old, they were modernized and are very well hidden. Even if they were located, they have autodetonation mechanisms in case something or someone gets close. Even an electromagnetic pulse is not capable of deactivating them." The bombs allegedly cannot be detected because "they are enveloped in thick layers of lead". They could be detonated "by various methods - cellphone call, radio frequency, seismic shock or by their regressive clock".

Al-Usuquf details the whole plan. "First, one head would be detonated, which would cause the deaths of 800,000 to 1 million people and a chaos never seen before. During this chaos, two or three planes, which are now disassembled inside barns near empty roads in the US countryside, would take off in suicide missions to pulverize another two or three big American cities with chemicals. Once the disease was identified, all seaports and airports would be quarantined. Land borders would also be closed. No plane, boat or car would enter or leave the US. This would be total chaos." The first target would be the city "that would offer the best conditions, for example bright sky and winds of eight or more miles an hour blowing towards the center of the country, so radioactive dust can contaminate the largest possible area".

This attack would not knock out the US, recognizes al-Usuquf, "But the process would be initiated. As with the World Trade Center, it would be just a question of time for the whole economic structure to be turned to dust. If the objectives are reached with one bomb and diseases, probably we will save the lives of other people, but it's risky, and probably six more bombs will be detonated, one a week, and more attacks with chemical weapons will be launched." According to estimates made by al-Usuquf "and Ayman al-Zawahiri", al-Qaeda's number 2, about 15 million people would die, victims of the bombs and the radiation. Among those contaminated by diseases, "25 percent will die, a figure around more than 5 million, plus many others due to the chaos and disorder".

Al-Usuquf does not fear an American military response. "Even if five or 10 cities are chosen at random to be destroyed, it will still be a small price to pay. The problem is that the economic despair will be so great that even if it saves [money] by not using weapons, American liquidity will be near zero, and the US will make more money selling a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier to Turkey or Italy for $5 billion, because they will urgently need to recapitalize. But it will be too late. Moreover, what will remain of an American soldier's morale to fight knowing that his whole family died and his country ceased to exist? To fight for what?"

The world economy would not collapse, says al-Usuquf, although "in the beginning, it will be very difficult. But without the US the world will soon rise in a more just and fraternal manner. Nothing can stop the plan."

And whatever America does, "it's too late". When will the attack begin? "I can't tell."
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Today, it is becoming increasingly more difficult for La Voz de Aztlan to determine the truth concerning what is being reported by the mainstream media and the government. There is no doubt, however, that George W. Bush has lied to the American people and to the world on a broad range of issues. We can not say that the above report is true or a hoax. We will leave this up to our readers.

Here they compare their plight to Palestinians!!
6 posted on 08/29/2003 1:12:10 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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What is sickening.. is we afford then meeting places on our schools. From Jr. High, to High School and up. They can preach their hatred and anti-Americanism there, but God Forbid that you teach boyscouts there!!

Exactly. Though reluctant, media scrutiny of this issue will grow in the coming days and weeks, I predict. The power of the internet (thank Algore for inventing it ;-)

7 posted on 08/29/2003 1:16:21 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Do not trust all you read.

The atomic article is a hoax
8 posted on 08/29/2003 3:38:38 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: JohnHuang2
Why does the article say "Former"?

I don't think he ever quit the group, nor has he repudiated their views.
9 posted on 08/29/2003 4:49:58 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: JohnHuang2
And Jesse James is the new head of security for the Wells Fargo Bank.
10 posted on 08/29/2003 8:52:17 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: AdmSmith
The POINT is the HATRED that the Mechista's feel for AMERICANS. ANY NON'BRONZE people!!

They want back Washington, California, Nevada, Texas, Oklahma and Arizona!!

(Someone check me if I left a State out!!)

They are on High school campuses, and higher education campuses with the blessings of the establishments.

Even if this article is incorrect.. if you READ it.. you will see the HATE! Which is my POINT.

I just grabbed ONE OF THE MANY articles posted off their site to show the HATE.

They equate their plight to that of the palestines.

They talk of KILLING Federal PIGS who would dare to try to capture illegal immigrants, they say people should DIE who are not BRONZE.

Do you know about MEChA?

11 posted on 08/29/2003 8:59:11 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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12 posted on 08/29/2003 11:34:12 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: JohnHuang2
13 posted on 08/29/2003 11:51:06 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Remind me again...when did Bustamante leave this organization?

or did he?
14 posted on 08/29/2003 1:27:43 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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I have never heard him say he "left". He won't "denounce" them at all! Good catch FRiend!!

If he won't "denounce" them.. you can't have left, now can you?? :o)
15 posted on 08/29/2003 2:03:29 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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"They want back Washington, California, Nevada, Texas, Oklahma and Arizona!! (Someone check me if I left a State out!!)"

I'd be interested to know that also. I thought they were just looking for part of Texas, New Mexico and California which was transfered to the U.S. by the "Treaty of Guadalupe", which we, during the James K Polk administration, took during the Mexican American war in 1847 when we marched to, and took by force, Mexico City.

16 posted on 08/29/2003 2:12:51 PM PDT by gorush
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Here is the map. Click on the link. But I'm warning you.. it is shocking. I hadn't looked for a long time..and it is far more than I remembered.
17 posted on 08/29/2003 2:21:09 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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Oh my, I'm sorry, that is totally unacceptable. But if reparations succeed, it's only a matter of time. I hope we at least get our $15 million back, adjusted for inflation of course.
18 posted on 08/29/2003 2:28:08 PM PDT by gorush
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To: JohnHuang2
Yeah -- just like the past didn't matter to them a STITCH when President Bush's DUI (no conviction) charge from the '70s was released the weekend before the 2000 election. (insert sarcasm here).

The fact is, things matter to the Dems and the press when it is convenient, and the same things do not matter when it is not convenient for them to matter.
19 posted on 08/29/2003 2:43:57 PM PDT by jmstein7
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To: JohnHuang2; gorush
I just found this on one of their websites. I will post the link. But, I also found out that they are getting their members ELECTED!!! This is from their site "Arizona congressman-elect Raul Grijalva is a former MEChA member, according to a 1997 article in the Arizona Daily Wildcat. Did voters know that Grijalva is or was involved with an anti-American seditionist organization? Will he denounce MEChA now that he's headed to Washington? Will he represent MEChA interests or the interests American people when he gets there? -- Grijalva also isn't happy about "civilian patrols" whose members are seeking to deter illegal immigration, and is in agreement with meddlesome Mexicans that an investigation is needed".

They are FULFILLING their goal little by little!!! Look at the link below regarding this congressman:

Here is the link to the information regarding the territories THEY WANT BACK!! (though I also copied the info below) There is a ton of information on this link:

Founded in the late 1960s, MEChA has spent the last three decades indoctrinating Latino students on American campuses in the ideology of reconquista (reconquest). According to MEChA propaganda, the Southwestern United States — including California, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, as well as parts of Nevada, Utah, and Colorado — sits on the territory of the ancient (and mythical) “Nation of Aztlan.” Supposedly the cradle of Aztec civilization, MEChA charges that Aztlan was unjustly seized by the United States following the Mexican-American War. Now MEChA wants this territory given back to its alleged rightful owners: the people and government of Mexico.

20 posted on 08/29/2003 2:46:28 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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