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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

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To: MarMema
Thank you, MarMema.

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8 AnnaZ's Interview w/ Bob Schindler, Jr. - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's brother

A: I'ts incredibly horrible. Those videos came out in July. It's getting to the point where when the charges went out (at) the website we're affiliated with, which is Free Republic.com....Jeb Bush received 27,000 e-mails. That obviously then did propel him to write that letter. Wrote what I thought to be a very well thought out letter to the judges that are involved. Because 27,000 e-mails represents a lot of people.
 
B: It certainly does, and I think Jeb Bush, being a human being, and I'm told there was research done on the case, and anybody that researches this case and discovers what is going on, I thinks as Jeb Bush did, (feels) helpless..wanting to involve (themselves). Because it is, you know it is just mystifying to us how these judges, it is really one judge in particular that has just (visibly) protected Michael (out of this) whole group of people the last 3 years...
 
A: O.k., Now, this is Judge Greer?
 
B: Judge George Greer.
 
A:  How much information has your side given him? Has he seen these videos?
 
B: They were at the trial..and, you know, interestingly enough, Judge Greer, in his ruling, even said that, uh, that Terri shows some response, and it was almost like she didn't respond enough for Judge Greer in order for him to rule where she was aware. But if you look at Florida law, to be in a PVS position, you have to show absolutely no, NO response, uh, or awareness of your environment..Terri clearly, that's what our attorney (responded)..Terri clearly, under Florida law, does not fit the PVS category.
 
A: Which is Permanent Vegetative State.
 
B: Permanent Vegetative State
 
A: Right
 
B: NO response, at all! No response at all to her environment.
 
A: Which is obviously not what we're seeing. Terri has shown more response than the guy who has come out of a 19-year coma in Arkansas - and asked for a Pepsi. Terri is more active than he was.
 
B: I fully agree.
 
A: Is there something sneaky there with Judge Greer..something weird between him and (this) husband?
 
B: It certainly doesn't makes you wonder...about the American justice system. The truth is what the judge says it is. So (much is) in control of this Judge and as long as he is ruling in this case, uh, we're in a lot of trouble - Terri's in a lot of trouble, unfortunately.
 
A: (Anna talks about a seeming nationwide trend of 'judicial tyranny'.)..'judges undermining and overturning the concensus of vast amounts of people..Judges are supposed to be about enforcing the laws that we already have..
 
  If we can prove, which obviously you've already been able to do, that Terri is NOT in a 'permanent vegetative state', I just don't understand why we need to continue...I don't know. It just seems there's got to be something there.
 
B: The same Judge refused to let (we asked) 3 doctors testify that Terri's able to swallow food, which means she can eat..We went to Judge Greer's court and asked him - we had a hearing - we asked the Judge to please give Terri, allow Terri a simple swallow test to see if she can eat. A swallowing test, to see if she has the capability of eating would take less than a day. He denied it.
 
A: Now, has he met Terri? Has he seen Terri himself?
 
B: Only through the videos. He's never gone down to visit her.
 
A: That's interesting, because he wants to preside and decide over whether she should live or die, but has decided not to go look her in the eye first?
 
B: That's absolutely correct.
 
A: There's something wrong right there.
 
B: Well, you would think he would want to go down and see for himself the person that he's ruling on, just how 'brain dead' she really is.
 
A: I would.
 
B: I would, myself, too - to have a clear conscience. Maybe he doesn't want to go down for that reason. He would see how alive and how responsive Terri is.

2,021 posted on 09/07/2003 8:07:04 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Americans do not turn away from duties because they are hard." - Pres. GW Bush)
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To: Theodore R.
You mean Jeb Bush can suspend George Greer but he is too fearful to do so or what?

Click here to go directly to Kimmie's great find (post 1991 on this thread).

I have no idea if Bush would suspend Greer, or if there is some excuse he could give to avoid ordering suspension.

If this possibility of Greer's suspension is brought to Jeb's attention, and he doesn't act (or explain why he can't act), then voters would have a right to ask, "Why?

2,022 posted on 09/07/2003 8:27:58 AM PDT by syriacus (JEB might have power to remove Judge George W. Greer from his Florida Bench.Pray for Terri Schiavo)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The videos are a huge part of convincing people. I wish there was a way to download them and show them at presentations. As I discovered last night on the library online, the media have mostly presented a lot of these people as in a coma, and the writing they do really is convincing. After reading enough of their stuff, I was almost convinced that Christine was really just showing impulses.
2,023 posted on 09/07/2003 8:29:27 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: syriacus
Well, the way I am reading that statute is that the Gov can suspend only in a case of criminal conduct on the part of the "judge".

>>who is indicted or informed against for commission of any felony, or for any misdemeanor arising directly out of his or her official conduct or duties<<

-PH-
2,024 posted on 09/07/2003 8:44:49 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: phenn
I posted the writing Wesley sent me over here
2,025 posted on 09/07/2003 9:16:56 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All
Thanks for the link to the transcript, RC. I'm reading it now.

BTW, who was it that was looking for info on the insurance company that paid the malpractice judgement? Here's some interesting info on that:

A: You have to prove bias.

If someone is accorded 1.3 million dollars in order to take care of someone else, and they, instead, spend that money on a lawyer to try and kill the person they're supposed to take care of, is there a lawsuit there? This is obviously misappropriation of those funds - what they were designated for. Is there anything there?


B: Let me tell you, we have looked into every aspect of this case. We tried to track down the insurance company that was settled back in 1992, to let them know of the fraud involved, and we found out that they had been bought out like 2 or 3 times, not even in business anymore.

We have looked into, as I said, almost every aspect we could possibly look into and I got to tell you - this Judge has completely insulated Michael. This Judge has put an order out to kill Terri and ..it has completely insulated Michael from any wrongdoing.
2,026 posted on 09/07/2003 9:18:10 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: phenn
Sadly it is no misdemeanor to kill these people, who now have the "right" to die, just as non-disabled people once did.
2,027 posted on 09/07/2003 9:18:22 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: kimmie7
"I got to thinking about that. As long as the boxes were properly sealed...I'm just not really sure. I'd hate for some sicko out there to get a sick idea...you know? Wouldn't look good for us. Perhaps just an empty box...? Any ideas? Anyone know someone who can better advise us about this?"

Would it work to just cut off the front panel from the box, and put it in an envelope?

2,028 posted on 09/07/2003 9:31:36 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Ohioan from Florida
"Perhaps this is how Greer, being a marathon runner, has gotten into connections with the scientology clan, if he indeed has any connections. I wonder."

I have it on fairly good advice that the Scientologists do not like Greer at all. (File that under "putting it mildly")

2,029 posted on 09/07/2003 9:39:24 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: floriduh voter
"I think maybe it had something to do with jello. What was up with the red checks? Is there a url?"

Geocities checks the referrer header, to prevent people from using them as a picture hosting service. If you try to link a picture from a page that isn't on Geocities, it refuses to serve it.

2,030 posted on 09/07/2003 9:49:53 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: phenn
Well, the way I am reading that statute is that the Gov can suspend only in a case of criminal conduct on the part of the "judge".

>>who is indicted or informed against for commission of any felony, or for any misdemeanor arising directly out of his or her official conduct or duties<<

-PH-

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Couldn't his not taking an interest in Terri's true condition be some kind of crime, gross negligence, etc. and gross bias, etc. if he is going to decide to have her killed? and the fact of the matter is that she isn't pvs, in a coma, etc. There has to be some laws being broken by the judge himself.
2,031 posted on 09/07/2003 10:00:11 AM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo to be sanctioned by Jeb Bush, FL, Fed courts?)
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To: MarMema
The videos are a huge part of convincing people. I wish there was a way to download them and show them at presentations.
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burn to cd and have a laptop handy..
i also got a news clip with at the link:

http://webpages.charter.net/honeygrl/terri.txt

That's really good in regards to video of her.

this in addition to www.terrisfight.org, etc.
2,032 posted on 09/07/2003 10:07:28 AM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo to be sanctioned by Jeb Bush, FL, Fed courts?)
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To: Don Joe
This is the easy part.. Felo-s Jello is pure etheric substance.. therefore there doesn't have to be anything in there.. don't know about the attribution to Hillary though.. anywayz.
2,033 posted on 09/07/2003 10:14:07 AM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo to be sanctioned by Jeb Bush, FL, Fed courts?)
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To: Theodore R.
"The villains in the Schiavo case are believed to be Scientologists."

Without going into details, no. I hate to say "trust me", but give it a shot. :)

2,034 posted on 09/07/2003 10:26:56 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: pc93
I really had no idea that Felos was even this sick. Lord have mercy.
2,035 posted on 09/07/2003 10:28:40 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: pc93
Here's the link. I was running out of steam last night and will be spending time with my little buddy today. I'll check in as often as I can. "http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Index&Title_Request=XLIV#TitleXLIV
2,036 posted on 09/07/2003 10:30:00 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: syriacus
(I think you said above that you like to make things beautiful, and this certainly qualifies.)

Awww, shucks. I was pretty happy when I stumbled on it.

2,037 posted on 09/07/2003 10:31:52 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: windchime
" John Gibson, Fox, had Felos on a couple of weeks ago and was intense in his questioning."

Yeah, but -- he was obviously not "up" on the facts of this case, and he seemed to accept whatever Felos provided by way of answers at face value.

But what bothered me more than that, was the fact that he didn't have anyone on from Terri's side, to counter Felos.

2,038 posted on 09/07/2003 10:33:32 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Theodore R.
I live in Kentucky and yes we do. "He needed killin'" is also a more valid defense here, much like in Texas. lol And that's just in other than Eastern Kentucky. It's a whole different world over there. Probably one of the most conservative places you'll find due to its remote location.
2,039 posted on 09/07/2003 10:34:59 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: Theodore R.
You know what? It makes for much better press when it's done at the last possible moment. An "emergency suspension" and all that. Perhaps he's going to wait and work the media. I find it difficult to believe he'll do nothing. I'm not as big a fan of his as I am W, but that's probably because I don't know as much about him.

If he's worried about a lawsuit, someone set up a legal defense fund. I'll donate.

2,040 posted on 09/07/2003 10:37:52 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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