Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:

Various ^ | August 28, 2003

[kimmie7]

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[kimmie7]

And, for that matter, if all that were needed for the Schindlers to whisk Terri away was time -- I'd be up for it. This simply can't happen.

And yes, I've been talking non-stop all day at work too. I don't know what's gotten into me. Sorry.

[floriduh voter]

Thanks. I'll have to check my 118 to see what I said. I decided that I would pour it on today, no holds barred; especially before the long weekend. They can think about Terri until Tuesday. FV

[floriduh voter]

Glenn Beck has been on vacation lately. I hope hope emails are full of Terri for his return. I tried to contact Bill O' Reilly but ended up in a window where I would have to register. I hope somebody who has emailed him before gives O' Reilly an update. I'll email Hannity over the weekend. FV

[floriduh voter]

I'm so proud of all the freepers who came out of nowhere to post on the Terri threads. There are names that are new to me. Terri's plight has touched a lot of folks. We don't know how this will turn out, but we sure gave it our all. Thanks, freepers.

If you haven't made any emails or calls yet, our cut off date is September 11, 2003. All the numbers you need are on this thread. If you have a ping list, please ping them.

[floriduh voter]

I'd send your information on the ties between Hospice, Judge Lenderman and Judge Greer to Al Reuchel at Bay News 9. Al Reuchel is the only local reporter who has the guts to do an indepth story about Terri. It may just be a coincidence re: the Hospice ties but there is an "appearance" of impropriety in addition to the callous attitude of J. Greer and hubby Schiavo. They want her dead and cremated.

[pc93]

I too received a letter after getting stonewalled by Bush's office, the Florida Attorney General's office,
etc. (there is a story behind this) and the next day of his official letter to Judge Greer. This is the letter. It seems that Jeb's letter was formulated just to appease people complaining to make it look like he cared because he was receiving angry letters (I can say that I have sent more than one stating that Michael Schiavo is getting away with murder sanctioned by Jeb Bush, and the Florida Supreme Court.) and perhaps was afraid that this would actually get out more in the public awareness. I sent to various lists and forwarded my e-mails to Jeb for him to see. This is plain and simple murder. Read the e-mail and tell me that he gives a damn. They already know what is going to happen.

Here is the letter from Jeb and his cronies:

Dear Citizen:

Below please find a copy of the letter Governor Bush sent to Judge Greer, the Circuit Court Judge in the Terri Schiavo guardianship case. Because the Florida Supreme Court declined to review this case on Friday, it goes back to the Circuit Court. Pursuant to the Second District Court of Appeal opinion, Judge Greer has scheduled a hearing on September 11 to determine the date for withdrawal of hydration and nutrition.

Thank you for your concern for the well being of Mrs. Schiavo.

[floriduh voter]

Add to my post, "if I were you, I'd send an email to Al Reuchel of Bay News 9." I am spending tomorrow with my mom instead of being on the www.

[iowamomforfreedom]

Here's an interesting article I found through an Alexa search:

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usschi153221372apr15,0,5890294.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

It seems there was a guardian ad litem appointed at one time. Here is an excerpt:

In June 1998, soon after Michael asked the court for permission to remove Terri's feeding tube, the court appointed Richard Pearse as Terri's guardian ad litem. His job was to investigate the facts of Terri's case and represent her interests in court.

At the 2000 trial, Pearse concluded that he had not found clear and convincing evidence that Terri would have rejected life support.

Pearse said he was troubled by the fact that Michael waited until 1998 to petition to remove the feeding tube, even though he claims to have known her wishes all along, and that he waited until he won a malpractice suit based on a professed desire to take care of her into old age. As her husband, Michael would inherit what is left of her malpractice award, originally $700,000, which is held in a trust fund administered by the court. Accounting of the fund is sealed. But Michael's lawyer, George Felos, said most of it has been spent on legal fees associated with the custody dispute.

Here is a link to a pdf file of Pearse's affidavit:

http://host85.ipowerweb.com/~friendso/guardian.pdf

Also, here is some interesting info on what Michael knew about Terri's wishes:

The Schindlers had contacted a woman Michael dated in 1991 who told them Michael had confessed to her he did not know what Terri would want. Although the woman refused to sign an affidavit, it bought the Schindlers some time. And with it, they found Trudy Capone. A former co-worker of Michael's, Capone signed an affidavit on May 9, 2001, stating "Michael confided in me all the time about Terri ... He said to me many times that he had no idea what her wishes were."

And testimony from a close friend of Terri's:

One of Terri's childhood friends, Diane Meyer, testified that Terri once uncharacteristically lost her temper when Meyer told a joke about Karen Quinlan. "What is the state vegetable of New Jersey?" Meyer asked Terri in the summer of 1982. The punch line was "Karen Ann Quinlan." "She said the joke wasn't funny and did not approve of what was going on in the Quinlan case," Meyer testified, referring to the legal battle to remove the woman from life support. "I remember one of the things she said is, 'How did they know she would want this?'"

Actually, I was doing a search on Judge Greer when I found this stuff. Still looking for that smoking gun. WHY IS GREER SO BENT ON KILLING HER??

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Perhaps if you had started at the beginning of this thread you would have seen Jeb's letter posted there. I don't believe at all that our Governor 'doesn't care' or is doing this to appease critics. He has made many unpopular, ethical decisions that were very difficult and brought him attacks from the WORLD press - on everything from school vouchers which he fought all the way to the higher courts and won - and was attacked and fought and won again - to attempting to appoint a legal guardian for an unborn baby - to bringing private groups - individuals and neighborhoods into "Child Welfare" - threatening the "State's" total control in an attempt to reach troubled children by pairing them with capable and caring adults in the private sector.

This is not a man who does things for political expedience. His letter is no casual last-minute plea. It is a heartfelt - almost begging - plea for Terri's life.

[pc93]

Michael Schiavo plans on having her body cremated.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

WHY IS GREER SO BENT ON KILLING HER??

Good question, isn't it?

See what you were able to find in a very short time. It is enough for any JUST person to stop this nonsense and appoint a GUARDIAN. Anyone else doing a cursory search can find the same info, the same reasons to most definitely remove this Judge from the case, and remove Terri from this 'husband's' control.

It makes no sense - unless you consider the $$$ and the big payoff - "State" - not God - as arbiter of life and death - which, of course, leads back to $$$.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Lol, your tag line, kimmie...not me, nope, not at all!

kimmie, fv, now that info has been gathered, individuals and newspapers contacted, perhaps we can make sure those who can do something about this know all the facts. Of course they should.

I must say that the one I'm most disappointed in is the man you campaigned so hard for, fv, AG Crist. Not even a comment about Terri on his website, though he clearly intervened in other 'unjust' cases. To top it off, his big announcement today is to join the enemy by jumping on the Bush admin. re. gas prices. I asked him whether he knew what the World Bank, the IMF and the Arab League is doing - undermining our efforts in Iraq along with the AMERICAN press, the DNC - and, now, our AG as well. Also asked him when he was going to take the real culprits to task - the anti-American enviral-socialist lobby pushing junk science with the help of the mainstream press and American education establishment...that WE THE PEOPLE have a right to OUR American OIL and GAS resources - much of which is now off-limits under swamp and off-shore, thanks, NOT to the Bush admin., but to those with the power to end a political career (the mainstream press).

[Tax-chick]

Glad I could help! I don't like to register at sites if I can help it, so I was glad to see the option.

There's also a petition that's linked off GlennBeck.com that's set up by Terri's family.

[pc93]

How telling! So he beat and strangled her to an inch of her life, etc. by strangling her, etc. symptoms, stiff neck, etc. major traumas, now he is doing this just for Terri! It is unbelievable that this guy is getting away with murder with the help of George Felos, Greer, 2nd District Appeals court, Florida Supreme Court, Jeb Bush, etc. And Felos the yoga teacher will be giving a seminar at Unity Church the 7th of Sept. I would like to give him a piece of my mind. Criminal Michael Schiavo should not be Terri Schindlers guardian, he supposedly is by law disqualified considering he has a fiancee and children by the fiancee, etc.
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And testimony from a close friend of Terri's:

One of Terri's childhood friends, Diane Meyer, testified that Terri once uncharacteristically lost her temper when Meyer told a joke about Karen Quinlan. "What is the state vegetable of New Jersey?" Meyer asked Terri in the summer of 1982. The punch line was "Karen Ann Quinlan." "She said the joke wasn't funny and did not approve of what was going on in the Quinlan case," Meyer testified, referring to the legal battle to remove the woman from life support. "I remember one of the things she said is, 'How did they know she would want this?'"

[pc93]

Note to All: A reporter is contacting me to speak to me about Terri's case. I will refer them to Wesley Smith, etc. and to possibly someone from terrisfight.org but would love to receive any good info I can tell the reporter or reasons you believe this is wrong for her feeding tube to be removed. I have good info. but
am accepting contributions, ideas, etc.

[pc93]

Here is the petition to halt the death sentence and for Michael Schiavo to be investigated. He deserves to be put in prison:

We still need your petitions to the Governor. Judge Greer has told the press that he is "not inclined to appoint a Guardian ad Litem". Your voice is still needed!!

http://www.friendsofterri.org/pet.html

[pc93]

Here was my reply to Bush's form letter saying that they are going to be setting
a date to pull the tubes. It says they are going to decide when to pull the
tubes not if.. yet this flies in the face of his letter to Greer. But if you
look closely at the letter to Greer you can basically see he is for her
termination. These are sick people. This is a dog and pony show as one member of
a list I belong to has said. If Bush was for anything good he would put Greer
and Michael Schiavo in their place by getting Attorney General Crist to
investigate and stop this madness:

Well, this is just a bunch of garbage. He just wrote the judge because he knows
he knows that he would look very bad if he didn’t respond. The judge doesn’t
have to listen to him and he isn’t listening to him. I called the office of Jeb
the day before this happened (this letter that he wrote) and was told on the
phone that he can’t do anything. So I asked to be connected to the Attorney
General’s office and they said they can’t do anything and that they can only do
something if Jeb tells them to and that it’s a judicial matter. My point was to
initiate an investigation into this criminal Michael Schiavo and that is what
the petition is about that I sent the link to on the list after Jeb’s letter.
This has been in process for a long time and part of the 27,000 emails. He is
not initiating an investigation into criminal Michael Schiavo because he has no
integrity whatsoever. It’s obvious that Michael Schiavo wants her dead and has
wanted her dead, etc. he has been trying to get this done (the pulling of
feeding tube, etc.) for close to 7 or more years. He obviously thinks he is the
arbiter of her life. In an argument with Terri’s father, he basically said that
he will do whatever he wants. Judge Greer has no integrity either. Apparently
the man is a heartless human being. Felos is a low life scum who is a yoga
teacher and gives seminars at Unity Churches regarding his spiritual battle in
the court room, etc. of people who want to die, etc. yet this woman is a
different story. She didn’t consent to die. She has been held prisoner for over
10 years by heartless human beings only concerned about their self-interest and
not hers. Her parents, brothers and sisters, have her best interest in mind and
should be her guardians. This is clear and has been clear. The legal system has
kept her prisoner at the wishes of criminal Michael Schiavo. The slap in the
face to Jeb by Schiavo is spoken by Michael after Jeb’s letter came to his
attention, etc. he is quoted saying along the lines that he “wishes that Jeb
would kept his thoughts to himself.”, etc. He isn’t above the law (although he
probably believes he is) but is totally in line with the law because the law,
Jeb Bush, and the Florida Supreme Court is sanctioning the murder (by a 15 days
dehydration, starvation death sentence- a torture not even reserved for people
on death row) of an innocent human being who could have regained ability to
function in some form with the right therapy which was never provided by
criminal Michael Schiavo, etc. (even with all the money he has gotten from
this). He obviously has something to hide and again this he will be able to do
very shortly because he is getting away with murder. He is getting away with it
right now by refusing any treatment to her after some recent emergencies as she
is now in critical condition. The ruse is almost over at the expense of a
innocent helpless human. All that I can say is that I find this very
distasteful, disgusting that this is really happening and that these people are
getting away with cold blooded murder. There is a lot to be said for the
subhuman aspects of the whole thing. I have no respect for the people who are
letting this happen. I could have had respect but they didn’t step up to the
plate. I am sorry that I didn’t become aware of this whole issue sooner or else
this issue would not have gone by the wayside. I guarantee you that. The whole
world would know about this. As it now stands they will know about it but after
the fact of the people actions allowing this to happen who could have done
something to stop the madness.


-----Original Message-----
From: LadyThelema grisham [mailto:grisham_thelema@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:07 PM
To: gnosis284
Subject: [gnosis284] Letter from Governor Bush to Judge Greer concerning Terri Schiavo





Dear Citizen:



Below please find a copy of the letter Governor Bush sent to Judge Greer,
the Circuit Court Judge in the Terri Schiavo guardianship case. Because the
Florida Supreme Court declined to review this case on Friday, it goes back
to the Circuit Court. Pursuant to the Second District Court of Appeal
opinion, Judge Greer has scheduled a hearing on September 11 to determine
the date for withdrawal of hydration and nutrition.



Thank you for your concern for the well being of Mrs. Schiavo.

[pc93]

I have been in touch with Pamela Hennessy from terrisfight.org and I was trying to brainstorm of things that could be done. I had talked to someone on a list I belong to and he gave some suggestsion:

-march on the capital.

also another suggestion of a possibility of what Jeb could do:

As far as the governor goes. I wonder if he could call an emergency session and draft a law that would pass the state house and senate that would transfer legal guardianship of this woman to her parents. I don't know if that is possible but you never know. Although it would take a rather loud voice to get any governors attention.


I actually was trying to brainstorm some more and thought maybe either Schwartzenegger might do something if someone tried to get him to say something about this case but I wrote his campaign office and no one ever called me back like promised, etc. I also thought maybe getting Christopher Reeve involved... heck he was on an episode of Smalleville or whatever... isn't that filmed in Orlando?

[pc93]

I was also thinking that if someone could get George Bush's attention .. after all he's Jeb's brother and if someone could put him on the spot maybe he would actually try to get his brother to get serious about a criminal investigation of Michael Schiavo, Greer, etc.