To: Destro
The AK-47 (or actually, the AK-74) is the finest weapon in the world.
2 posted on
08/27/2003 4:37:17 PM PDT by
Lazamataz
(I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
To: Lazamataz
Doesn't the AK-74 use 5.45mm ammo?
4 posted on
08/27/2003 4:39:43 PM PDT by
Ken522
To: Lazamataz
At the very least the AK is not french.
5 posted on
08/27/2003 4:40:10 PM PDT by
LibKill
(Heaven frowns on all things french.)
To: Lazamataz
Laz...I think you better don "the suit". I can feel the heat from here.
To: Lazamataz
The Iraqi Army was (is?) equipped with a home grown version of the AK-47 (7.62X39)
Not a bad clone provided the maintence has been kept up (yea, right)
Has the ballistics of a 30/30 with a bit more carry.
I toted one around in 90/91.
10 posted on
08/27/2003 4:43:24 PM PDT by
cavtrooper21
(The only thing criminals will get from me is a .45 bullet or cold steel... Their choice.)
To: Lazamataz
Gimme a break. The AK is cheaper and more available, uses a 7.62 vs 5.56 but is not better than an M-16/M-4. In Nam the AK round was heavier and appeared not to deflect so much in jungle but nobody was anxious to hump 200 rounds of 7.62 vs 200 rounds of 5.56 and Charlie ducked just as much from a 5.56 as a 7.62 - if he could make the distinction. In open desert, I suppose the 5.56 round would be able to cause more damage than the 7.62. I carried a folding stock M-14 (airborne type) in Nam as well as an M-16. After our first firefight I sold the M-14 to a REMF for $10.
To: Lazamataz
The AK-47 (or actually, the AK-74) is the finest weapon in the world. Most reliable general rifle and best all around weapon. Yep.
Finest ? Not even close.
21 posted on
08/27/2003 5:00:33 PM PDT by
Centurion2000
(We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
To: Lazamataz
Actually, the M-14 (that is, the M-1 Garand with it's problems fixed) is the best all-purpose small arm in the world.
The M-16 was adopted based on a bunch of faulty assumptions, the primary one being that "it is better to WOUND an enemy soldier than to KILL him, because that ties up four other soldiers taking care of him". I don't think this is a valid assumption for any but Western armies (like ours and other NATO types).
As far as ammunition weight and bulk being a limiting factor, I note that most of thse troops are in some sort of vehicle most of the time- and ammunition resupply is therefore not a big problem.
I will say one good thing for the M-16- it is accurate. I used to teach it, and it was MUCH easier to get trainees through with acceptable levels of proficiency with the M-16 than with the M-14. You do lose range and knockdown power, though.
To: Lazamataz
"finest" ? Hmm, don't think I'd agree with you there. A SAKO TRG-S in .338 Lapua maybe?
It is about the most crude weapon around, except for its cousin the SKS and a few WW2 era subguns.
It is plentiful, reliable has a good rate of fire, is cheap to manufacture. It is also inaccurate, few examples get close to a M-16 or FAL.
I don't believe the AK-74 variant is much used in Iraq. I think these are real 47s. The "more knockdown" rule probably doesn't apply to the 74, its almost the same round as our .223
Still, the first requirement in a weapon of war is that it works every time. The AK passes that test with flying colors.
To: Lazamataz
I'll take a poly tip round firing M-16 any day over an AK. I hate those damned things.
47 posted on
08/27/2003 5:38:54 PM PDT by
PatrioticAmerican
(Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
To: Lazamataz
I love my AK47
You'd have to pay me boocoo bucks to trade it for an M16/AR15. You wouldn't have enough cash to entice me if I knew I was going to see action.
65 posted on
08/27/2003 6:09:16 PM PDT by
King Prout
(people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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