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Forging a case for U.S. jobs in manufacturing
The Arizona Republic ^ | August 24, 2003 | Jon Talton

Posted on 08/24/2003 9:55:53 AM PDT by sarcasm

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:21:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Does it matter if Americans make stuff?

I'm using Alan Greenspan's brushoff term for American manufacturing. He used it last month during his congressional testimony, when asked about the loss of 2.7 million jobs over the past two years, most in factories and they're likely gone for good.


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1 posted on 08/24/2003 9:55:53 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: harpseal
ping
2 posted on 08/24/2003 9:57:10 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
In the other corner, we have South Carolina Sen. Fritz Hollings. In his retirement speech last month, he reprised his famous skepticism about expanding trade to the detriment of American factory jobs. With harder times, he should be receiving a more careful hearing.

Hollings recalled how former Sony Chairman Akio Morita equated developing a strong manufacturing capability to becoming a nation-state. Morita "pointed and said to me about the United States: 'That world power that loses its manufacturing capacity will cease to be a world power.' "

Sheesh sars, going down to the level of printing an article from a liberal newspaper, that praises Fritz Hollings.

Yunz gloom and doomers are desperate.

Oh BTW, just a question, has Japan taken over the world yet?

3 posted on 08/24/2003 9:59:50 AM PDT by Dane
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To: sarcasm
Really scarey. Our govt is full of out of touch millionaires.
4 posted on 08/24/2003 10:00:02 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: sarcasm
"That world power that loses its manufacturing capacity will cease to be a world power."

I tend to agree.

5 posted on 08/24/2003 10:00:07 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Dane
"Free trade" is the traditional doctrine of Democrats - are you, or were you, one?
6 posted on 08/24/2003 10:05:39 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
"Free trade" is the traditional doctrine of Democrats - are you, or were you, one?

Huh, Ronald Reagan was also a free trader.

Time for you brigadiers to get out the gifs of Reagan in tar and feathers.

7 posted on 08/24/2003 10:09:01 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
As a general rule, free traitors smirk like gated community fat cats.

For your information, blue collar workers, people without college educations, have never recovered from the end of manufacturing. They have gone steadily downhill since the 70's. For them, it most definitely has been gloom and doom as they have nothing like the standard of living their parents did. Look at the cities of the Northeast, none of whom recovered from the collapse of manufacturing.

Your kind of fat cat smirking made Bush I a one term president. It will do the same for Bush II unless he gets ahead of this issue.

All his trend lines are down.
8 posted on 08/24/2003 10:12:35 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: Dane
Protection has been the position of economic nationalism since the party of Lincoln, McKinley, Taft, etc.

There is nothing at all intrinsically conservative about free trade. It is entirely a question of what serves America's interests, not your globalist free-trade "citizen of the world" agenda.
9 posted on 08/24/2003 10:14:29 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: Dane
I see you are avoiding answering the question.
10 posted on 08/24/2003 10:14:58 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Tokhtamish
For your information, blue collar workers, people without college educations, have never recovered from the end of manufacturing. They have gone steadily downhill since the 70's. For them, it most definitely has been gloom and doom as they have nothing like the standard of living their parents did. Look at the cities of the Northeast, none of whom recovered from the collapse of manufacturing.

Your kind of fat cat smirking made Bush I a one term president. It will do the same for Bush II unless he gets ahead of this issue

Yeah whatever, live in your doom and gloom(actually more like DU) world, with your use of the derogatory term "fatcat". Hey you are in the same camp as Tom Daschle, isn't America great, that you can just whine incessantly, while "fat cats" like me see the more positive aspects of life in America.

Go ahead, and live in perpetual negativty, that's your right.

All his trend lines are down

Whatever, put your faith in a Newsweek poll, that doesn't even include registered voters.

You are in the same camp as MSNBC and CNN.

Great company there dude.

11 posted on 08/24/2003 10:20:58 AM PDT by Dane
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I see you are avoiding answering the question.

Huh, it seems that you are avoiding the answer. The answer being that Ronald Reagan was a free trader.

And that makes you democrats hiding on FR as pseudo conservatives really pissed, since you can't hide behind him.

12 posted on 08/24/2003 10:23:51 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Reagan was wrong on "free trade". Answer the question - are you now, or have you ever been, a Democrat?
13 posted on 08/24/2003 10:27:57 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Morita ....said to me about the United States: 'That world power that loses its manufacturing capacity will cease to be a world power.'

Morita is right; is anyone listening?

14 posted on 08/24/2003 10:32:29 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: sarcasm
I hope Greenspan is getting paid with conceptual dollars.
16 posted on 08/24/2003 10:33:22 AM PDT by Nachoman
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To: sarcasm
Reagan was wrong on "free trade". Answer the question - are you now, or have you ever been, a Democrat?

Yes, yes, SS commmandant, I vill answer the question. In the area that I live in I am a registered democrat, for local reasons, since in primaries if I were registered as a Republican, there is no choice in the primary.

This way I have a say in trying to vote for the most conservative candidate in a heavily democratic area.

BTW, when I lived in Florida and Ohio, I was registered Republican.

BTW, where are those gifs of Ronald Reagan in tar and feathers.

He was a "free traitor" and proud of it, thus your sworn enemy.

17 posted on 08/24/2003 10:35:17 AM PDT by Dane
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To: sarcasm
But how do we bolster our manufacturing sector without wrecking the world trading system?

We can't -- so let's do both.

18 posted on 08/24/2003 10:40:46 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Dane
When you first registered were you a Democrat or a Republican?

BTW, no politician is a God - they all err in their policies. The current "free trade" mania was inaugurated by JFK - a Democrat.

19 posted on 08/24/2003 10:40:57 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: clamper1797; sarcasm; BrooklynGOP; A. Pole; Zorrito; GiovannaNicoletta; Caipirabob; Paul Ross; ...
Ping on or off let me know

By the way tommorrow Monday will be a day without many pings or posts due to other commkitments.
20 posted on 08/24/2003 10:41:38 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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