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To: cp124
It seems Pat forgot about Toyota, Nissan, Honda, BMW, and Mercedes, building car manufacturing plants in America to take advantage of our superior productivity and lower costs.

Even Korea's Hyundai is building a plant in America.

4 posted on 08/23/2003 7:54:48 AM PDT by magellan
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To: magellan
Assembling a product is only a fraction of the benefit to the economy. These parts are supplied from Japan, Taiwan, and China. Producing the parts makes a trickle down effect on the economy. Part manufacturers buy machine tools, tooling, etc. The machine tool and tooling companies buy machinery and tooling. etc,etc,etc.
6 posted on 08/23/2003 8:01:48 AM PDT by cp124
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To: magellan
Toyota, Nissan, Honda, BMW, and Mercedes, building car manufacturing plants in America to take advantage of ... U.S.!

Please don't confuse manufacturing with assembly. The majority of the plants you cite are for assemble only, all the parts are manufactured in countries with much, much lower manufacturing costs (read wages) than the good ole USA. The jobs we "gain" here exist because it allows some Americans to think they are buying an American made product and for the companies to take advantage of tax releif packages for establishing a US "manufacturing" plant.

40 posted on 08/23/2003 12:24:37 PM PDT by Great_Dame
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To: magellan
Superior productivity my butt.

The parts all come from Japan, China, and Korea.

It's DELIVERY costs for the whole vehicle which makes the difference--the plants are for assembly, not manufacture...
49 posted on 08/23/2003 3:14:44 PM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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...building car manufacturing plants in America to take advantage of our superior productivity and lower costs.

Oops. You meant assembling the foreign-made parts (which represents over 79% of the value added) into cars in the USA...all to evade our trade tariffs and import quotas. There is no superior productivity and lower costs than exist in Japan.

63 posted on 08/23/2003 4:20:09 PM PDT by Paul Ross (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!-A. Hamilton)
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To: magellan
Another Apparatchik of the Hate America First Free Traitor Division speaks up.

It seems Pat forgot about Toyota, Nissan, Honda, BMW, and Mercedes, building car manufacturing plants in America to take advantage of our superior productivity and lower costs.

Clearly you feel that your brazen lie is sufficient to rebut all of what Pat has written. You may be so easily fooled by your own rhetoric, but the rest of us know that the unions forced Congress to lay heavy tariffs on completed cars brought into the united States. That is why Toyota, Nissan, et al have built assembly plants in the united States where manufactured parts are brought in and minimal assembly is performed to produce automobiles not subject to import tariffs.

China had a 100% tariff on Japanese made cars so Japan decided to build assembly plants in China. Also the fastest growing economy the world has ever seen has had a average 35% import tariff on all products and a few years ago reduced the tariff on import cars down to a mere 70-80%. So if China can have tariffs and enjoy the fruits of profound expansion, why do you hate America so much that you wish just the opposite?

69 posted on 08/23/2003 5:43:34 PM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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To: magellan
Actually, they build the plants here to avoid the tariffs--and to save a lotta shipping costs.

But those plants only ASSEMBLE--parts from overseas, largely.
119 posted on 08/30/2003 6:36:08 PM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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