Battle over evolution heating up

News 8 Austin ^ | 8/20/2003 | Antonio Castelan

[gg188]

Socialism. Evolution. Global warming. And the list of liberal scams goes on and on and on as long as they are in a position to brainwash the naive via media and "education."

[TheAngryClam]

I'd contribute to stand up for science.

It amazes me that Conservatives are proud of the fact that a lot of them subscribe to such utterly inane beliefs as "creation science."

Next thing you know, we'll be pushing for alchemy to be taught along with real chemistry, because, damn it, that's what the medieval Europeans believed.

[thulldud]

"Textbooks should fix embarrassing factual errors and tell students about the scientific weakness of neo-Darwinism as well as its strengths," Discovery Institute officials stated in a faxed memo.

If the media aren't allowed to spin this affair into a replay of "Inherit the Wind" where all the conclusions are neatly spelled out in advance of the facts, the textbook situation in this country might stand a chance of getting aired out. Textbook publishers have turned into little more than paper mills. Anything they can get Texas and California to buy will be snapped up by everybody else, no matter how chock-full of boneheaded mistakes, myths, and disproved "facts" they are.

Not that anybody reads them these days....

[PatrickHenry]

PING. [This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]

[thulldud]

Be amazed then. Creationism has nothing to do with alchemy.

[TheAngryClam]

Happy, he who was able to know the causes of things.

I loved that part of the Georgics. I liked De Rerum Natura even more.

[TheAngryClam]

They're exactly comparable: utterly fantastical and false belief systems, which have a large following built up around their false and/or unprovable premises.

[PatrickHenry]

Ah, a classics scholar.

[PatrickHenry]

A very few links from the famous "list-o-links" (so the creationists don't get to start each new thread from ground zero).

15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense. From Scientific American
Project Steve: FAQs (National Center for Science Education)
Arguments we think creationists should NOT use from Answers in Genesis.

The foregoing is just a tiny sample. So that everyone will have access to the accumulated Creationism vs. Evolution threads which have previously appeared on FreeRepublic, plus links to hundreds of sites with a vast amount of information on this topic, here's Junior's massive work, available for all to review:
The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 21].

[thulldud]

Well, I seem to remember when I was studying chemistry, that some attention to alchemy was not considered to be out of place. Alchemy morphed into chemistry when people started working from a proper foundation, seeking to understand what was going on instead of looking for some magic formula for "riches". You're certainly not against schools teaching THAT, I hope.

[Heartlander]

FYI…

A Preliminary Analysis of the Treatment of Evolution in Biology Textbooks

Columnist at Austin Chronicle Offers Poorly Designed Arguments

Critics accuse publisher of changing textbook

Institute supports accurate science

Darwinism critics have viable view

Evolutionist overreacts

[new cruelty]

Thanks for the links.

[PatrickHenry]

Threads like this one often become rather heated, therefore ...

For your information: many of the regulars on the science threads here on Free Republic have joined in the AGREEMENT OF THE WILLING to promote civil discourse and to avoid flame wars which lead to excessive use of the abuse button, transfer to the Smokey Backroom, and ultimately ... thread deletion. I respectfully ask that you read the linked agreement so that you will know what the willing parties expect of one another and their dealings with others.

[TheAngryClam]

Very much so.

Was pretty good at it too- several nice pieces of paper tell me so.

[PatrickHenry]

Here's a thread from a couple of weeks ago on a related topic: Board of Education to hear evolution debate [New Mexico].

[TheAngryClam]

Somehow, I doubt that these people will be happy about teaching that creationism was a false premise that gave way to evolution.

[Signalman]

I agree with you on socialism and global warming.

But evolution. It's a fact, pal. Deal with it.


Bob

[PatrickHenry]

Was pretty good at it too- several nice pieces of paper tell me so.

Then you're way ahead of me. All I had was 3 years of Latin in high school. It was sufficient to give me an absurdly fond impression of the classical period.

[Russell Scott]

Why do humans spend time building things. If they would just wait, it would magically pop out of the Earth by the brillant mind that is evolution. According to many people, evolution is the most intelligent force in the universe. I wish someone would introduce me to Mr. or Mrs. Evolution. I want to meet this brillant builder of things. If it can build a complex human, imagine what kind of automobile or energy plant it build for us. I'm glad we have so many brillant teachers who understand the mind of Evolution, and are willing to share it with our kids, to bring them out of the darkness of religious stupidity.