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To: Golden Eagle
I sincerely hope that is not the situation, but as you probably know my convictions on this issue go beyond this particular case.

Yes, I know this is all about a personal vendetta against people that you don't like. I'll be happy to provide the evidence to anyone that believes otherwise.

'm not convinced yet of the proof you've shown that whoever first supposedly made this publically available had to the right to do so.

Only because you are avoiding it. It's been provided at the very beginning of this thread.

Who are you saying it was? BSD? So that makes it guaranteed not SCO? Careful here.

Fron the article:

We've found the malloc() function this slide refers to. It is included in code copyrighed by ATT and twice released under the BSD license: once by Unix Systems Labs (ATT), and again by Caldera, the company that now calls itself SCO. The Linux developers have a legal right to make use of the code under that license. No violation of SCO's copyright or trade secrets is taking place.

This is important: as the rights to Unix passed from AT&T to Novell to SCO to Caldera to TSG (The SCO Group), the effects of actions by the holders of those rights are also passed on. SCO certainly can impose more restrictive terms on their new contributions to their Unix, but they can't lay claim to stuff already released into the public domain by previous "owners" of Unix.

Furthermore:

The malloc() code also appears in Lions Commentary on Unix, in this form:

[code excerpt snipped]

Lions' book was first published in the 1980's under non-disclosure and was used as a textbook by universities that had licensed the Unix source. ATT vended a copy of this book to Unix licensees for some time, and a photocopy version was widely circulated among Unix licensees. The original SCO, before its purchase by Caldera, allowed the book to be published without any non-disclosure terms in 1996.

I know you are being intentionally obtuse, but I've grown tired of pointing out the obvious to you. If you are still not convinced, it's only because you are blinded by your personal vendetta.

48 posted on 08/19/2003 1:23:09 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: justlurking
SCO certainly can impose more restrictive terms on their new contributions to their Unix, but they can't lay claim to stuff already released into the public domain by previous "owners" of Unix.

Thus is IBM's or Sun's UNIX license is perpetual and irrevocable, SCO cannot revoke them. Likewise, I am not sure that it can revisit the cases against BSD and Hurd, because the previous owner had already settled.

49 posted on 08/19/2003 1:28:19 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: justlurking
Lions' book was first published in the 1980's under non-disclosure and was used as a textbook by universities that had licensed the Unix source. ATT vended a copy of this book to Unix licensees for some time, and a photocopy version was widely circulated among Unix licensees. The original SCO, before its purchase by Caldera, allowed the book to be published without any non-disclosure terms in 1996.

So what's the copyright on this book? Does it allow free distribution of the code under a different product (Linux vs Unix?)

54 posted on 08/19/2003 1:32:12 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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