Sobran: "Is the Pope Square?" (for opposing gay "marriage")?

sobran.com ^ | Aug 19, 03 | Joe Sobran

[Conservative til I die]

I "discussed" neither.

You didn't write this?: "Whatever his other good points, Sobran lost me when he said the pope isn't absolute dictator who can change things at his will. RC's will feel bound to disagree, to no avail, but Biblical Christians (and others) know that indeed the Pope can, and has. All he has to do is say "Ex cathedra!"

I'll grant you that you didn't discuss Mariolatry. The other guy brought it up. But talking about Pope's creating teachings through "ex cathedra" pronouncements sure sounds like bringing up infallibility arguments.

[BibChr]

I go: "...the Pope can, and has. All he has to do is say 'Ex cathedra!' Then RCs feel they have to scramble to explain how it isn't really a change"

Then you go: "...for whatever reason you felt this was the starting point to start discussing the Church's infallibility doctrine and mariolatry."

Then you go: (okay, not mariolatry)

Now I go: and not "the Church's infallibility doctrine," either. Maybe it's a fine distinction, but Sobran was talking about the Pope, per se, and so did I.

And if to you that brief, passing remark is "discussing," then (to quote a book by an RC) one wall and no roof makes a house!

Dan

[BibChr]

Hey... I heard you the first time!

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[Remole]

Well, actually, I really had no interest in bringing up Mariology as a theme to debate; what I was leading towards was a discussion on Infallibility of the believing community; and that the Infallibility of the Bishop of Rome is a concentrated expression of THAT. FWIW.