Posted on 08/15/2003 8:49:46 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
While Pres Bush stays out of the California Recall, Sen Joe Lieberman is attempting to make political gain by inserting himself in the CA Recall with his support of Davis/Bustamante! Remember the next time anyone tells you that LIEberman is centrist -- he is actually a Democrat liberal supporting two very liberal Dems in Davis/Bustamante! This "centrist" Voting Score from the American Conservative Union is:
Don't know about you, but a 20 Rating for a Lifetime Conservative Voting Record makes Senator Lieberman a Liberal IMHO.
FYI, Cong Chris Shays (R-CT) had a 76 conservative voting record in 2002!
The Media reported based on the statements of Democrat candidates that the hazardous duty pay and separation allowance for our military would expire on Sep 30, 2003, and the Bush Administration was doing nothing. Even when the Department of Defense put out a statement that the military would get the money from other sources if it expired -- the media chose to stay silent on the TRUTH! Below is the DoD Press Release:
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Aug 14, 2003
DoD Statement on Family Separation Allowance and Imminent Danger Pay
In April, after the President's Budget was submitted, Congress authorized an increase in both the Family Separation Allowance (on a worldwide basis) and Imminent Danger Pay and legislated that these increases would expire on Sept. 30, 2003. The department is aware of the problem that would result for those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan if these allowances were allowed to expire. This is an issue of targeting those most deserving, and certainly people serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are in these categories. We intend to ensure they continue to receive this compensation at least at the current levels.
My goodness. Did this guy see our (liberal) field poll that came out today?
3 words;
Political Tin Ear.
Joe No-Core-Value-Man
He told me it was difficult to gauge public reaction to his proposals... He said he never met anyone opposed to his views.
I think that is very true of most candidates. They are met by the party faithful who reinforce their beliefs. Rarely does a candidate get to learn the views of the centrists that decide their fate. No handler wants a candidate in a situation where he is confronted by people who are opposed to his views. So candidates live in a world isolated from accurate views of public opinion.
As Mike pointed out, the danger is that a candidate will believe his own eyes and ears and not the people who do the polls and conduct the focus groups.
Kerry strikes me as a man who "knows it all". He is the most likely candidate to ignore good advise and follow the bad advise of his gut. I don't think Kerry is going anywhere. Kerry appears to me to always be thinking of his strategic position. What he says is based on what he thinks of his current situation. Since he has no real beliefs he can't remember what he said in the last stategic situation. And he has as many opinions as he has situations.
It would be fun to hear the media jokes about Kerry. Bet your bottom dollar there are a lot of them.
Years ago I interviewed Mike DiSalle then Governor of Ohio. He was running for relection in a race he lost.He told me it was difficult to gauge public reaction to his proposals... He said he never met anyone opposed to his views.
This reminds me of Bernard Goldberg's story about the Upper West Side chatterer who wondered aloud how Nixon had beaten McGovern in 1972. She claimed that "no one she knew voted for Nixon".
Echo chamber.
I wonder how one compares Kerry to Dean. Dean appears to be driven by his own convictions, although I strongly suspect that he is malleable enough to try to make himself presentable for a general election campaign. Can Dean pull off a Nixon and tack to the right? I'm not sure. Remember that the people around Nixon were very good, and their boss had a political instinct that I have yet to see matched by any other politician, with the possible exception of Bill Clinton.
Agree with you on Kerry, btw. Sort of like a jumped up version of John Edwards: there's no there there. One thing about Dean, though. I'm not sure that he's getting the feedback he needs to be a better general election candidate. Recalling your admonition that the people will tend to vote for the candidate who is trying to solve the problem, I'm not sure that Dean brings a lot to the table other than a jazzed up base.
No one wins elections on anger alone.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
I saw a Dean statement that he made to an AP reporter in 1995. The 1994 election saw the loss of the house and senate seats to the Republicans. The democrats also lost governorships as well as state legislatures in 1994. The Democratic governors were angry with Clinton so Bill called a meeting with the Democrat governors to have them advise him on what to do. Dean was a Democratic Governor in attendance.
After that closed meeting Dean was approched by an AP reporter who asked what transpired. Dean replied, "Well no one urged him (Clinton) to move to the left."
Note what Dean said. It shows skill. Dean did not say they urged Clinton to move to the right although that is the clear inference. If he hads said that the reporter would have asked who urged Clinton to tac to the right. If Dean had then refused to name names the reporters story would have said Dean refused to say who urged Clinton to the right. The reporter could have used what Dean said as a lever on the other governors to gain more information. Instead Dean phrased it as a negative. That did not leave the reporter anywhere to go. That shows some skill.
I think that Dean may be pragmatic. He needs the nomination. He may also think he can move to the right if he wins it. But you can bet that in the 2004 debates a candidate Dean would get his own words thrown back at him. With all he has said, video of Dean saying x followed by video of Dean saying y would be enough to defeat him.
I think at this point, Dean is saying I must do what I must do to get the nomination. Once I get it, I will worry about defeating Bush.
I don't think Dean really believes he can win. But no one thought Clinton could win... but he did. So Dean is gambling hoping for Clinton's luck.
I still think that Gephardt will get the nomination. He has the backing of 11 major unions. And the word is he has most of the 20 percent of the appointed delegates to the convention sewen up. If that is the case, Gephardt needs to only win 30 percent more of the delegates. The other candidates will have to win 50 percent. What I hear is that Gephardt is 40 percent of the way to the Delegate goal, before a single primary is held.
Thanks for the response. Dean is saying what he has to say to get the nomination, and does intend to move right in a General. That's classic Nixon. Unfortunately for Dean, as you suggest, that's where Karl Rove's AudioVisual crew will get him.
In my lifetime, the two guys who didn't try to do that were Goldwater and McGovern. Look what happened to them.
It's not that Dean is not malleable; he is. But he's trying to get the base vote over to him by making them angrier than they need to be. This will hurt him in the long run.
BTW, I didn't know Gephardt had that many delegates locked up. Bob Dole redux?
Oh, btw, would you mind if I linked your "Weekly Commentary" page to my blog. Your stuff is absolutely superb.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
Hi Chris,
I would be pleased and honored if you link to my commentary.
thanks
ray
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