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Episcopal Priest in Maryland: 'I Can No Longer Submit to Our Bishops'
Agape Press ^ | Fred Jackson and Jody Brown

Posted on 08/11/2003 7:38:22 PM PDT by xzins

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"There are things in the Bible that are not up for a vote," Roseberry is quoted as telling hundreds of worshippers at Christ Church Episcopal on Sunday morning

For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to right teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever they want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3 NLT.

It seems there will come a time not too far off, that remaining anonymous on the internet will prove beneficial for our safety.

Paul continues to tell us: "But you should keep a clear mind in every situation. Don't be afraid of suffering for the Lord. Work at bringing others to Christ. Complete the ministry God has given you."

I realize not everyone on this ping list is Christian or reads the New Testament. I just can't help but see history repeating itself from the New Testament times. It seems we're coming full circle.

21 posted on 08/11/2003 10:13:47 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: xzins
SPOTREP
22 posted on 08/11/2003 10:17:26 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: loulou
Does anyone know if there is an Anglican Use Liturgy parish anywhere in Iowa or even close to Iowa? I would sure like to hook up with one even if I could manage to drive there only once a month or something. Also interested in any other Episcopal variation anywhere in Iowa or nearby. Thanks.
23 posted on 08/11/2003 11:01:19 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: scripter
Great verse - how appropriate.
24 posted on 08/11/2003 11:02:21 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: scripter
Bump!
25 posted on 08/12/2003 5:50:29 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: ikka
As I understand it (and remember, I've only been an Episcopalian for 31 years), the diocese is the biggie.

All the dioceses are under the loose direction (pun intended) of the national church and the presiding Bishop, but they are (sort of) independent.

If an entire diocese should decide to withdraw from the current national church organization, all the churches within that diocese would have to go along, or lose all their church property.

I don't believe individual churches own a thing if they decide to leave ... even the dishtowels I recently gave to the Altar Guild.

Frankly, I am hoping that the Dallas Diocese does leave. The line has to be drawn somewhere.
26 posted on 08/12/2003 6:01:13 AM PDT by altura
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To: Irene Adler
Nearest one I could find is in Moorhead, Minnesota.
27 posted on 08/12/2003 6:22:30 AM PDT by brbethke
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To: jnarcus; Destro
I wasn't sure about the point either.
28 posted on 08/12/2003 6:23:39 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Cicero
Puhlease, don't refer to it as a kirk, call it the Episcopal Sorority.
29 posted on 08/12/2003 6:27:19 AM PDT by Cronos (Sanity and slam don't mix, consult your Imam...)
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To: Destro; jnarcus
Actually, it is not a sect founded by an adulterous murderer.

The Celtic (Anglican) Catholic church existed prior to its affiliation with the Roman Catholic Church.

If you read the history of the time, you'll see that they simply appealed to their status as an independent catholic body, the same as the orthodox, coptic, syriac, etc.

You'll need to check particularly the times of St Columba, St Aidan, St Patrick. Christianity had come to England separately through the efforts of Christian missionaries and they had established a separate catholic presence in England. It is interesting to read how Rome sent St Augustine to England to bring them into the Roman Catholic fold, but Augustine was rebuffed.

30 posted on 08/12/2003 6:28:14 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Destro
After all it is a sect founded by a murderous adulterer crude but true.
31 posted on 08/12/2003 6:28:52 AM PDT by Cronos (Sanity and slam don't mix, consult your Imam...)
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ENGLAND WAS ORTHODOX and God willing will be so again. This Episcopal church is just a pale Norman-Latin imitation church THE FALL OF ORTHODOX ENGLAND

Orthodox England's saints are still remembered in the East.

32 posted on 08/12/2003 10:32:34 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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It sounds like we are very nearly on the same page (albeit me from a Methodist look back at our Anglican founder, John Wesley.)

go to: anglican catholic church for a site that some anglicans might find interesting.

33 posted on 08/12/2003 11:46:10 AM PDT by xzins
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Homosexuality:

Homosexuality is deviant sexual behavior and a mental illness.

Homosexuals: 1) subject their body parts to uses nature did not intend, such activities often presenting immediate risk to the participants; 2) are prone to greater suicide, depression and other mental disorders and deficiencies than the heterosexual population at large; 3) are prone to far greater sexually transmitted diseases, including AIDS, than the (normal) heterosexual population; 4) molest young people (pedophilia) at a far greater rate than heterosexuals; 5) engage in degrading sexual promiscuity, oftentimes engaging in risky sex with many partners during the same event; 6) are engaged in aggressive and widespread efforts to indoctrinate our children by introducing the homosexual lifestyle using public schools as the primary indoctrination “vehicle” and likewise, through the movie/music/TV industry, with the dual goals of gaining school-age acceptance of homosexuality and encouraging sexual activity among children, especially same-sex experimentation; 7) view most everything through a mindset heavily biased in favor of the homosexual lifestyle and culture, which renders them mostly useless when asked to opine on matters that normal heterosexuals better resolve.

The mental deficiencies described herein applying to homosexuals shall not be confused with the deficiencies associated with the left wing democrat/socialist/marxist/ feminist/environmentalist minds, etc., which have their own distinct set of mental disorders.

This doesn't even touch on what the Bible has to say about homosexuality.

34 posted on 08/12/2003 11:52:07 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: Imagine
This sorry episode brings to mind the parable of The Wheat and the Tares.....
35 posted on 08/12/2003 11:57:37 AM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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To: xzins
Randall was not the only Episcopal priest registering his dismay from the pulpit yesterday. According to The New York Times, Rev. David Roseberry of Plano, Texas, delivered a "rousing" sermon that ended with a "thunderous" ovation from his congregants...... "There are things in the Bible that are not up for a vote," Roseberry is quoted as telling hundreds of worshippers at Christ Church Episcopal on Sunday morning. "In two days, in two votes by less than 600 people, 4,000 years of biblical teaching was overturned.

At least one pastor of a LARGE, and perhaps GROWING Episcopal church has the moral courage to oppose the heretical and schismatic gay agenda imposed on his church body by its mis-leaders!

Meanwhile, these same mis-leaders invite further shrinkage of the Episcopal Church, which will soon (barring a dramatic turnaround) consist entirely of gays/lesbians, church bureaucrats, "liberal" dupes, and poor souls who are too old and/or too set in their ways to move.

38 posted on 08/13/2003 2:49:37 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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