The Rainbow Menace

Working For Change ^ | August 6, 2003 | Will Durst

[icu2]

There is nothing more pitiful than one who is willingly ignorant.
You know your self when its thrown in our face.

[StoneColdTaxHater]

This whole issue is why I no longer attend church. I believe in God but organized religion is coming st stand for less and less. What ever happened to right and wrong? There are some things that are just wrong and why do we no longer have the intestinal fortitude to say so?

[StoneColdTaxHater]

I beleive it was Nietchze who said "Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society".

[vikingcelt]

Why on earth would you DISDAIN single parents? Some people end up with that role rather they like it or not (I did) and it is not easy to be a single parent. I am having a real problem with you using the word DISDAIN to describe your feelings about people like me. I raised a wonderful daughter by myself. She is now grown, she is very successful and she is the parent of the love of my life (my granddaughter). I DISDAIN MORE people who stay together "for the sake of the children" and harm them emotionally by doing so.

[skeeter]

There is nothing more pitiful than one who is willingly ignorant.

Or dishonest.

[Britton J Wingfield]

If gay couple #1 could reproduce without using artificial insemination

Plenty of gay people have had kids the old fashioned way. They just had a little experiment with heterosexuality. You don't even have to enjoy it for it to work.

[volchef]

I am sorry that I offend you. I was refering to people who choose to have children on their own (should have made that more clear). That being said however, I truly believe in my heart of hearts that children do best with a mother and a father and I DISDAIN that we live in a society where men and women are so full of vanity and self interest that they cannot find a way to learn to love their spouse through thick and thin. This is a me oriented society and it has had a terrible effect on our children. I am sure that you did the best you could and I'm sure your daughter is a wonderful person however, for more people than not their families end up emotionally wrecked and I think it's very sad. God forbid my husband should ever leave me (I'm not blind to the realization that marriages do break up) however, I will do all in my power to love and nurture our relationship forever. I am one who really believes in Until Death do us part.

[conservative cat]

Most children of homosexuals end up being straight, the same as most children of heterosexuals.

Agreed. My (straight) fiance's father is gay. His parents (father and mother) were married when he was conceived but then divorced, and his father now lives with a man. The only effect it had on his (fiance's) sexuality, is he worked extra hard to prove his straightness when he was younger and was kind-of a pig for awhile. He calmed down a long time ago, though!

[StarCMC]

You haven't disproven my pint: if God intended gay couples to be able to reproduce straight couples, then you would not need a donation from both genders to make it happen.

And besides that, just because someone has a predispostion to say, pedophilia does it make it ok for them to practice it? Or how about stealing? Is it ok for a theif to steal just because he wants to? I think not.

[Britton J Wingfield]

Limiting people to doing things that "God intended" will make for a very short list of possible actions. I guess I'd better quit flying and scuba diving.

Theft and pedophilia are crimes with victims. When two consenting guys bump uglies, who is the victim? Bad analogy. A better one might be selling Yanni tickets. I don't see how people can stomach that crap, but if they want to indulge then I'll just ignore them.

[StarCMC]

Ok, how about changing "what God intended" to what he "specifically didn't forbid." Ok - I know some people choose not to see the meaning in the Bible, but it's there and it's my interpretation. If I'm wrong, at least I'm erring on the side of caution. I'm trying to remember my college psych class. There was this thing with four sections and you compared the pros and cons. It would go something like this:

If I say homosexuality is wrong and so does God: I have followed His principles and haven't sinned.

If I say it's wrong and God doesn't: I am misunderstanding His principles, but so long as I treat the homosexuals as I would have them treat me, I have lost nothing.

If I say homosexuality is right and God says it's ok: I'm ok.

If I say homosexuality is right but God says it's a sin: I lose -- I have chosen a path that leads me away from Him.

If you look at the 4 possibilities, the way you lose big time is to say it's fine when God says it's sin. So long as I am treating the homosexual, the PERSON not the ACT, "as the least of these" then my condemnation of the act itself has the least possible negative ramifications. Combine that with the fact that I believe that legislating homosexual marriage as being equal to heterosexual marriage is a total assault on the family as God created it, and I HAVE to stand up for what I believe. To not do so would be a sin. If I am wrong in what I believe, then I pray that God will help me see differently. But unless He does, this is where I am.

As for the things I mentioned being crimes with victims, well, as I see it, the problem with that statement is that it's all relative. We don't think of homosexuality as having victims because we've been so inundated with it on every show from NBC prime time and everywhere else until we are used to it. So, let's say for 5 years we keep seeing roles played on TV and hear psychologists on the radio talking about how pedophelia is "normal" and "healthy," that the children love the man who's abusing them, etc. Would it wear us down enough to make us change our mind about that? There's already an organization (if not more than one) out there who want us to believe that -- it's called NAMBLA (North American Man - Boy Love Association.)

To me, the Bible is an absolute standard that should (not always does because I'm not perfect by any stretch) govern every area of my life. When I read in there that it's improper for man to lie with man, I will err on the side of caution and read it literally. It seems like a better option to me than to take a cavalier attitude and assume I know what God meant even though He said something else.

*Off soapbox*