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Bush Promotes Forest-Thinning Initiative in Fire-Ravaged Mountaintop Community
AP ^ | 8/10/03 | Scott Lindlaw

Posted on 08/10/2003 4:25:03 PM PDT by Jean S

CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - President Bush surveys a fire-ravaged community in Arizona on Monday as part of a push to get the Senate to approve steps aimed at preventing catastrophic wildfires.

Bush's helicopter-and-hiking tour of the devastation left behind by the June fire in mountainous Summerhaven, Arizona, near Tucson, is also meant to illustrate what he says his proposals can help save.

The preventive forest thinning Bush is trying to accelerate helped ensure the survival of $2 billion in telecommunications equipment, camps owned by churches and Boy Scout and Girl Scout groups and two mountain observatories, said James Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality.

"When you don't do (thinning), you get moonscapes with matchsticks," Connaughton said in a telephone interview Sunday. "When you do the work right, you get thriving, natural forest that's got a nice, wide canopy."

Bush proposed his "Healthy Forests" initiative last year, and has implemented portions of it through new government rules.

They no longer require environmental studies before trees are logged or burned to prevent forest fires. The rules also limit appeals of such projects.

The House passed a bill that calls for aggressive logging on up to 20 million acres of federal land at high risk of fire. It would eliminate some environmental reviews and limit appeals on overgrown woodlands so forest projects could be completed within months.

The Aspen fire that charred Summerhaven burned 84,750 acres and destroyed more than 330 homes, cabins and other buildings.

It was among the wildfires across the country last year that scorched nearly 7 million acres, killed 23 firefighters, destroyed hundreds of homes and cost taxpayers more than $1.5 billion.

The Forest Service and Interior Department estimate 190 million acres are at risk for catastrophic fire - an area nearly the size of Wyoming, Idaho and Montana combined.

Environmental groups say the Healthy Forests plan will make it easier for logging companies to cut down trees in national forests and will limit the public's input in forest management decisions.

The previous rules required environmental studies for nearly every logging project.

Now, logging projects affecting 1,000 acres or less will not need such studies if the acres are deemed at-risk for fire. Controlled burns, where fire is used to burn excess trees under certain circumstances, could be done without environmental studies for projects up to 4,500 acres.

Neither of these "categorically excluded" projects would be subject to administrative appeals, but they could be challenged in court.

Some critics also said Summerhaven was a curious place for Bush to pitch his initiative. It was lack of money, not bureaucratic hurdles, that prevented critical thinning in the area, they say. Moreover, the legal obstacles to thinning that Bush wants to remove have been almost nonexistent on Forest Service lands in the area, experts say.

Bush is to tour by helicopter the observatories and camps that survived the fire, as well as the vacation hamlet of Summerhaven. Then he plans to land and drive back up the mountain to Inspiration Rock, a spot near last year's fire and another one this summer that forced the evacuation of Summerhaven.

Aspen fire victims still tallying their losses and mired in the rebuilding process have mixed feelings about Bush's visit.

"It's a nice gesture, but it doesn't affect the significance of the fire or the recovery efforts," said Donald Barton, who owned a summer home in the mountaintop community of Summerhaven for 30 years but lost it in the Aspen fire.

"I don't know if his plan is the right solution, but it's certainly a step in the right direction," Barton said.

Edward Carlson, whose cabin burned in the fire, said Bush should have come sooner. "He wasn't around when the forest fire was raging," he said. "This is a campaign stop."

Bush narrowly won Arizona in 2000, and wants to keep its 10 electoral votes in his column. He travels to Colorado later Monday to headline a fund raiser for his re-election.

AP-ES-08-10-03 1904EDT


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrine; environment; forests; healthyforests; logging; wildfires

1 posted on 08/10/2003 4:25:04 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
"Environmental groups say the Healthy Forests plan will make it easier for logging companies to cut down trees in national forests and will limit the public's input in forest management decisions."

It would also create JOBS and lower the cost of housing. What's better, to have a healthier "thinner" forests' or one huge charred mass of dead trees and animals? Idiots.

2 posted on 08/10/2003 4:36:38 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Normal4me
Well, as I read some brain dead environmentalist wrote once, forest thinning is only okay if it isn't done by logging companies and done with solar powered chainsaws...


Is there such a thing as logic with these people?
3 posted on 08/10/2003 4:48:23 PM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care
GREAT NEWS!

Better late than never.

I do hope that they have the intelligence to clear the forests around residential areas BEFORE they do the wildland areas that are endless.

4 posted on 08/10/2003 4:57:18 PM PDT by katya8
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To: farmfriend; madfly
ping
5 posted on 08/10/2003 5:03:24 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: JeanS
Related thread:

PRESIDENT BUSH WILL SPEAK TO AN INVITATION-ONLY CROWD (Coming To Tucson, Arizona, Monday)

6 posted on 08/10/2003 5:12:31 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: JeanS; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

7 posted on 08/10/2003 5:42:56 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
Very good news coming out of the Bush administration.
8 posted on 08/10/2003 11:32:56 PM PDT by The Westerner
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
9 posted on 08/11/2003 5:38:15 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: I still care
solar powered chainsaws...

i.e. lightning and forest fires

10 posted on 08/11/2003 8:10:55 AM PDT by CedarDave (New slogan for the environmentalist whackos: "Its for the Landscape")
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To: JeanS
They should have come to the Klamath National Forest where on the west side every project has been appealed and/or litigated by environmentalists. (EPIC, Klamath Forest Alliance, the Siskiyou Project)

The analysis paralysis fear is so bad that some of the sales had to be readvertised as the they had absolutely no commercial value left in them after they were scoured for environmental correctness. No one wants to bid on them. This is the future where the public will actually have to pay companies millions of dollars to thin the Forest and reduce fuels. This is how the need for subsidies is created.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/klamath/projects/timber/
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/klamath/projects/projects/
11 posted on 08/11/2003 10:45:31 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: Grampa Dave
ping
12 posted on 08/11/2003 10:48:05 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Official New Mexican Disruptor of the Lone Star Chat Thread)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
President Bush is concluding his helicopter tour of Mt. Lemmon right now and local channels show the invited crowd assembled. WH reporters just arrived at the area so President Bush should appear any minute.

Perhaps cable will cover some of his remarks.
13 posted on 08/11/2003 10:50:02 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: redlipstick
MSNBC showing President Bush on Mt. Lemmon.
14 posted on 08/11/2003 10:54:55 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Tijeras_Slim
We need to start sacrificing Watermelon Green Jihadists to their god of Forest fires, the fires that happen due to their insane policies of no harvesting and thining of wood and brush.
15 posted on 08/11/2003 11:53:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
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To: marsh2
Horrible. Why is it that a politician can get it right only up to a point? His handlers wouldn't want him to see the whole picture? Too many negatives in attacking the environmentalists? All of the children in the US are now brainwashed from pre-school with green thinking. Who has the guts to go up against this green anger?
16 posted on 08/12/2003 12:38:35 AM PDT by The Westerner
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