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I don't have a dog in this fight, but I've wondered if anyone has attempted to separate FReepers on their stances regarding this California crisis?

There seem to be the Californians who are genuinely interested in getting their state back on track by electing the person they think best suited to that task.

Then, there are the conservatives who want to get a conservative in the governor's office in the hopes that the state will turn toward Republican candidates, ie. Bush, in the Presidential elections.

Also, there must be a group of FReepers who are simply stockpiling popcorn for the Oct. 7th debacle and kicking back to enjoy the fuss, figuring that *anything* that happens to California is, for the most part, well deserved. (That presupposes that only bad things are going to happen, as the state has really gone too far off the rails to be saved at this late date).

I count myself among that third group. It's been high good entertainment watching California's degenerate spiral after listening to them for several years trumpet what a model society they possess and what high, compassionate moral ground they occupy. Oct 7th: recliner, remote, refreshments, wait for the looting to start.

As a conservative person who lives in western Washington (we're about in the same shape as California fiscally -- we're just not as big and so: not as important to the country as whole), I do care a great deal about what happens to my brethren in California. I've also worked against-the-grain in Washington government for 23 years (until getting axed by a highly-partisan RAT), and I know from personal experience and professional experience how thoroughly the green-communist-anarchist-paganist philosophy has taken over in the large urban areas where all the votes are.

I admire California because it has a strong conservative tradition -- there is a sizable conservative community still in California, a minority to be sure, but still sizable. We don't, and have never, had that in Washington. Washington was wobbly and communist stronghold practically from statehood in 1889. The only "conservative" of note to ever win a statewide election in Washington was Scoop Jackson -- a pro-defense Kennedy Democrat!!!

So I have strong feelings about a state that would elect and produce a Ronald Reagan, or even a Richard Nixon. In Washington, Nixon would be considered a far-out right wing nut!

So I do care about California, it is important to the country. And I'd like to see it start moving back toward sanity, because maybe it pull some of the rest of the whacked-out west coast with it.

And I'd be happy with baby-steps, like Arnold represents. Because we can't win [yet] with big, massive revolutions. Attitudes like those in California -- pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality, pro-any strange and weird sexual adventurism, pro-cradle-to-the-grave social programs, etc. etc. -- just won't be given up suddenly, no matter how bad the crisis is. People took generations developing those strange ideas -- it's imbued right down to their souls, who they are as human beings. They won't be righted in a couple of months.