[Abe Froman]

If you want an actual solution to the problem California faces you need to listen to those with real answers, even if it drives liberals apoplectic and you yourself don't want to hear it.

Liberals have destroyed California. It will take a hard-line conservative to mount a serious attempt to fix it.

[Poohbah]

Liberals have destroyed California. It will take a hard-line conservative to mount a serious attempt to fix it.

Then California will stay destroyed, because those hard-line conservatives can't get elected. Even IF (and it's a big IF) they manage to get some traction, the rest of the "base" and the "grass roots," PO'd that THEIR favorites didn't get the nod, will trash the nominee for any sins, real or imagined, deliberately split or supress the conservative vote, and elect another liberal.

[luckystarmom]

I think it will take a hard-line conservative to fix California's mess, but a hard-line conservative will not win. You can't fix anything if you can't get elected.