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Thanks for your suggestions Coral Snake, you are an open source advocate deserving of respect. So many 'free sofware' people seem so obsessed with the 'free' aspect of it for them personally, and instead only want to "take" verses your true desire to "give". And yes, the symbolism of many open source projects like 'Mono' are evil in appearance, and I simply don't understand the need unless that is somehow attractive to their users much like 'heavy metal' music symbolism must be to some as well. As for the penguin, silly, obviously, not really any better than the Gateway 'cow'.