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To: Dr Warmoose
"Ah, good, someone to play with."

Hardly WWJD in this little line...

"Thanks for admitting that you don't read the Bible"

Wrong answer. My comments were to the effect that God is beyond us, is wholly other, and even though we have the scriptures, there are things about him that are unknowable. God is, to a large degree, unknowable. He's bigger even than YOU and YOUR MIND. That'll bother you, but it can be okay once you get used to the idea.

"Didn't Jesus' ministry have to do with revealing Himself to the world? "

Yes. But he did NOT reveal that he would NEVER be found at a rock concert. It's no where in there. He was found at parties with 'publicans and sinners'. He touched lepers. He hung out with poor people and cripples. He did have a tax-collector in his little ragtag band of disciples, but they were utterly despised (working for the damned Romans, they were). Another despicable type, getting to hang out with Jesus' in-crowd. He went to parties with these people where today's celebrity sluts and coke heads would have been right at home! Yes!

Jesus' in-crowd was the out-crowd to the religious hot shots of his day. They were insanely jealous. They also hated him for mixing with such hideous specimens of humanity rather than their educated, fire-and-brimstone, crossed t's and dotted i gloriously 'unspotted' selves. He simply didn't put up with them. He went his own way. And they weren't included in his little gang. The one who was curious and did get to know him, Nicodemus, had to sneak around because the RELIGIOUS TWITS would have wrecked his life if they'd known he was talking to the Son of God. It's all right there in the Bible.

Whatever all that noise is about blacks and HAM and hoods and sheesh!, etc. is evidently from some place in your personal life that could use some therapy or something. I won't even go there. I'm having too fine of a day.

"Actually the tax-collectors were some of the most wealthy men in Israel"

That's right! DOH! Jesus' disciples consisted of people from all walks of life, but the majority of them weren't what would be today's celebrities and CEO's, etc. I didn't say they were all tax-collectors. Sweeping generalizations don't cut it.

"There are no "if's", Jesus didn't attend a rock concert, so there is no fruit in speculating to the fruit of doing so..."

UM...besides the fact that there WEREN'T rock concerts back then, so Jesus couldn't NOT have NOT GONE to one, YOU'RE the one that brought this up as a hypothetical and called it blasphemy. Life presents little episodes in life where you make choices based on accumulated knowledge and experiences and deductions you arrive at along the way. For instance, a Christian might actually see a bridge person asking for money at an off-ramp and think, "Hmm. I don't want to give this guy the time of day." You might have, until that hellish bracelet came out, actually thought, "What would Jesus do?" Oooo. What's the answer? Ever see Jesus giving money away? Where? He gave Peter a coin once out of a fish's mouth. Nope, at no time do you see Jesus handing out money...heck, based on your reasoning, the heck with supporting charities of any kind. Please note that I am not saying what the outcome of your brush with people on the off-ramp of life should be. That's up to you.

I don't know what your 'American Religion' is. I can't say I go to that church. I gather you're from someplace better and righter and truer and cleaner and holier and shinier and my gosh, how is it you manage to walk among mere mortals such as we?

"WWJD is of anti-Christ"

Whoo hoo! Next time I see one of those sulphurous little bracelets, I'm going to spray it with a fire extinguisher, rebuke it in the name o' Jesus and demand it repent. Oh - but Satan CAN'T repent. Hmm. Maybe I'll just take my Bible and beat the wearer of such an atrocity until they see I'm a Christian by my love and accept my version of Christ. Oh, I'll make sure I list all the scriptures, too.

Oh well. Thanks for playing. I shan't participate any longer. It tires me so. I'm off to hang out with real people in real life. Have a happy day, you old sourpuss!


42 posted on 08/01/2003 1:49:08 PM PDT by bluejean
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To: bluejean
My comments were to the effect that God is beyond us, is wholly other, and even though we have the scriptures, there are things about him that are unknowable.

You are changing your argument from "doesn't like to be figured out" to the orthodox "finite can't grasp the infinite". (the first presumes motive, the second is positional - I was challenging your assertions on motive.)

But he did NOT reveal that he would NEVER be found at a rock concert.

If you simultaneously chuck out principles in Scriptural teaching and find evidence in silence, then you could make that statement, but certainly could not be dogmatic on such a guess. Fortunately we have biblical principles that show that Christ would not go to a rock concert. Once again, there is that motive thing.

Jesus' in-crowd was the out-crowd to the religious hot shots of his day. They were insanely jealous. They also hated him for mixing with such hideous specimens of humanity rather than their educated, fire-and-brimstone, crossed t's and dotted i gloriously 'unspotted' selves.

OK, I am returning to my premise that the Scriptures are alien to you. The Pharisees hated Christ because he claimed to be God - that was considered blasphemy. Jesus Christ healed the sick on Sunday, they thought that he was a law breaker. Jesus Christ was found ministering to the lowly and they thought he was a drunk. The crowds that followed Him did so because He came to rescue them from bondage to the Law. Doing away with the law was real popular yet no one wanted to be saved. I don't know where you get off thinking that his was some sort of battle of the cliques.

Other than the wedding at Cana of Galilee, I am not aware of these "parties" that you are referring to. What I do see is "...when they saw Him eating with the tax collectors and sinners..." Is this where you project your family and friends made up of sluts and coke-heads into this picture?

...the RELIGIOUS TWITS would have wrecked [Nicodemus] life if they'd known he was talking to the Son of God. It's all right there in the Bible.

That's all made up in your head. What the Bible shows in John 7:50-52 was Nicodemus (a ruler of the Jews) standing up and defending Jesus Christ before the Sanhedrin and later assisting at His burial (John 19:39-42). The reason he came "at night" couldn't be because of fear (see above) but more likely because Jesus or Nicodemus was busy during the day. I can thank people like you though for eisegeting contradictory motive - it always reminds me of the fact that I am dealing with those who love their own imaginations and are not interested in God's word.

UM...besides the fact that there WEREN'T rock concerts back then, so Jesus couldn't NOT have NOT GONE to one

Once again facts are about to get in the way of your imaginary little world. But Middle Eatern scholars have long said that the music of the early ME was "voluptuous, noisy, and devised to drown out the cries of Phoenician victims burned at the altar of Moloch." Sounds like a typical Marilyn Manson concert. News Flash: Jesus didn't attend those.
Luke 7:32 "They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling to one another, saying: 'We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we mourned to you, and you did not weep.'
Do you know how Jesus enjoyed His music? "And when they had sung a hymn, they went out unto the mount of Olives"(Mark 14:26)

I'll just take my Bible and beat the wearer of such an atrocity...

Undoubtably the most use your Bible will ever receive.

43 posted on 08/01/2003 3:06:27 PM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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