What would (Al Gore as) Underdog do?
Posted on 07/31/2003 3:04:03 PM PDT by Pokey78
What would John Wayne do?
(What Would Brian Boitano Do?)
Would he want me to use public transportation?"
I was glad that an idiot like the "Rev" Jim Ball asked this question because it shows the fallacy of the whole WWJD program.
"It was huge with the under 25s, the kind of people who would go to ordinary rock festivals as well as Christian rock festivals."
Anyone under 25 without proper teaching are not fully capable of knowing what Christ did let alone what He would do. Hence you have these WWJD braclet wearers blaspheming Jesus by not only convincing themselves, but teaching others that Jesus would go to a rock concert. What happens is that they strap on WWJD jewlery and then go about with legalism du jour, morality based on what they want, and all along they tell everyone that Jesus would engage in sin.
The Boardgame. ("Challenge yourself as you put yourself in Jesus's shoes and explore 600 thought-provoking questions.")
Situation Ethics redressed.
But then again, the American Religion has very little to do with traditional Christianity. The only thing in common is that believers have with your garden variety WWJD devotee is a character named "Jesus" in the religion.
I believe Jesus WOULD go to a rock concert, if that's where the people were that needed to hear the message, and I can't think of people in any more need than those at a Marilyn Manson or perhaps a rap concert.
Jesus would go to a rock concert. Why wouldn't he? He went to a lot of places that the "righteous" wouldn't go, as in, say, to a tax collector's house. Remember? It's not the healthy who need a doctor...
But then again, it's not a sin to go to a rock concert, although there are a lot of people who go to rock concerts who have problems. But I'm sure there are lots of people in lots of different places who need Jesus.
Besides, WWJD is at least enough to get people to even think about Jesus, which is more than many people do nowadays.
You also don't need to be over 25 and have "proper teaching" to know what Jesus did.
I thank you for pointing out what could only be made by those who support WWJD. Eve in the garden fell to temptation. She succumbed to the the lust of the eyes, the flesh and the spirit. Jesus Christ did not fall to temptation. In fact he never sinned because he acted in total obedience to God. So it is fallacy to say because Jesus did, I can or should to. (Jesus didn't go to rock concerts but he did go to the homes of repentant sinners, not sinners who celebrate their sin.)
But then again, it's not a sin to go to a rock concert
I thank you again for providing the opportunity to show that the WWJD phenomina is blasphemy and rationalized hedonism on parade.
2 Cor 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
The problem is that people think that their hearts are pure just because they accept the apostate American Religion.
Jer 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it? It doesn't matter to the WWJD person, because their hearts have convinced them that they are exempt from temptation, exempt from bad decisions, and have a particularly dissonant philosophy that simultaneously is antinomian yet legalistic. Antinomian in that biblical principles are said to be "nailed to the cross", in that whole ideas like "Jesus would go to rock concerts, so I should go too."; yet are contradicted by a self-righteous legalism that projects the corrupted nature of the sinner onto the perfect God/Man that was Christ. The concept is pure evil to pretend that corrupt man can speak for Christ outside of clear biblical principles.
You also don't need to be over 25 and have "proper teaching" to know what Jesus did.
Interesting. Empirical evidence dictates otherwise, or else there wouldn't be a need for seminaries. Even in the article there was the claim that older people didn't need the WWJD crutch. Why do you suppose that is? Did you know that a jewish priest could not enter the ministry until he was thirty years old? Why do you suppose that was? When it says in Scripture that the older should teach the younger, why do you suppose that is in there for? Or like the WWJD crowd, the Bible is a dust covered relic that has been replaced by hackneyed vapid chants in the form of "choruses"? Why is it the youth and the nominal "Christians" who wear their entire knowledge of Scripture summed up in a bumper sticker or T-Shirt?
But I'm sure there are lots of people in lots of different places who need Jesus.
This is as lame an excuse to go to a rock concert as I have heard young girls rationalize "missionary dating" a pagan boy. The people chased Christ around. He even had to take boats to get away from those following him. Jesus Christ's ministry was to his own people - that fulfilled prophecy. His people were utter reprobates, so to fulfill prophecy he had to deal with them. He taught at the temple, and ministered to those who would repent. He taught those who followed Him. But the WWJD crowd says that they should chase the pagans, to convert the temple into a rock concert to lure the pagans in with promises of free entertainment and food. Jesus had the crowds before he fed them - He didn't say, follow me and I will feed you food, the price is to listen to what I have to say. Besides, I fail to see how effective any "ministry" will be when the people are at a rock concert for the noise, not the message.
Good trolling, except that it is a little too obvious that you aren't serious.
The American Religion believes that people can be manipulated by man's will into heaven. It is the eptiomy of arrogance to believe that someone who slapped down full admision price to a Manson concert would care to listen to some punk wearing some vapid "Warn The Brothers" T-shirt to repent. (Does the American Religion even teach "repentance" these days, or has it just degenerated down to a "choose Christ" thing?)
Besides, if it was so easy to just walk into a topless bar, a Manson concert, a gay bath-house, or a crack den and convert the lost, why destroy the Church by converting it into a place so worldly that the "seekers" feel unthreatened?
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