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To: Shooter 2.5; ExSoldier; Squantos
You're correct. The designer and machinist is a neutral party.

But the history buff in me always sees a Russian KGB guard in a great coat and fur cap, holding a snarling German Shepherd on a leash, with the holstered Tokarev on his belt.

The Tokarevs were used to finish off any starving and freezing "zeks" who fell out of the march on the way from the camp to the mine or forest.

Fair or not, the combloc guns always make me think of communism, history's worst form of institutional mass-murder.


192 posted on 07/31/2003 8:36:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I'm pure Bohemian on both sides. My grandparents were lucky enough to get out at the turn of the century. My mom said she had cousins still over there and always wanted to visit. My dad was adamant in hs refusal.

My son visited Prague after the fall and he said our last name is like Smith and Jones over there. Kinda cool because I don't know of anyone with my last name. My son is the last of the male line.

The good news is he's getting married in a couple of months. There's hope.
196 posted on 07/31/2003 8:53:03 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Travis McGee
Agree but...........but they work. They work well. My MAK-90 is a jackhammer for hard use. We went mud boggin last spring and with a coat of mud and water about three inches thick on, in and under my little FJ40 I then took note that my MAK was on top of my gear pile in the back not in it's case and the improv-test was on. For safety sake I dropped the mag, cleared the weapon and ran a bore snake thru to make sure the barrel didn't get the same fill of canadian river mud we did and put the same mag back in and started shooting. Awesome little rig, tough and dependable albeit ugly as sin and build by hammer monkeys in a sino soviet slave camp somewhere.

It serves for rough duty yet as you say.............reminds one of what were up against every day. I have a couple of the makarovs and a CZ 52 and a Norinco copy of the 1911A1 I bought from a money starved friend. Functional and as stated .........ugly. But then aren't we all.......:o)

Stay Safe !!

200 posted on 07/31/2003 9:14:38 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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