[zarf]

The Indians celebrate new trend in outsourcing.

[thoughtomator]

I wish someone could explain how this benefits Americans. I've yet to hear a cogent explanation. What do we have to gain from the wholesale export of large sections of our economy?

[laredo44]

Indians are all working at a fraction of the cost paid to the American workers. For example, American computer programmers earn about $60,000, while their Indian counterparts only make $6,000.

Not sure how the $6000 is calculated but for application development and support, we pay closer to $35,000 -- that's to the company, obviously the individual gets less than that.

[raybbr]

ping

[bimbo]

G.W. Bush is handing the Democrats a golden Campaign Issue – they'll hand him an October Surprise when it is too late for him to do anything about it. And once elected, the Democrats will continue George's “giant sucking sound” trade policy, of course.

[BA63]

While, Wipro's Vivek Paul notes that American workers might resent the "offshoring" trend, but all Americans will benefit in the long run.

Isn't this like pissing on your back and telling you it's raining?

[Alouette]

I was talking about this last week with an Indian co-worker. He is caught in the middle of this controversy. He has been in this country five years and has a Green Card. He expects to become a U.S. Citizen in two more years.

He wants his kids to grow up as Americans and can't imagine anything worse for himself and his family than packing up and moving back to his home town.

[Wolfie]

I don't get the griping. You just have to be prepared for a career change that takes advantage of the New Economy. I've already begun "re-careering" for the inevitable. So far I've got it narrowed down to Millionaire Star Athlete or Millionaire Hollywood Actor.

[dfwgator]

OK, so if you're an optimist, you would say that 90% of the jobs are staying here. But this is the issue, that's great if you can keep your current job. The problem is that IT is an industry where traditionally people have to constantly move around, either to gain new marketable skills, or to just have a job period. This environment makes it much tougher to do that. I think the only way to survive is to get published, or to become an SME that is regularly sought out for giving presentations at user groups or conferences. Before it was a nice thing to have, now it is a matter of survival.

[PatrioticAmerican]

Last year we displaced an Indian company. The American company thought they got a deal, except the Indian company nickle and dimed them to DEATH!

Company: "We need to move a list over a few pixels"
Indians: "Dat will take ahhh 72 hours, yes. We must document the change, send it for approval to New York, get the VP signature, den send it to our coders in India, convert it to English,......" A 5 minute change always became a 72 hour adventure.

Needless to say, their $25/hour became $225/hour (seriously) by the time the extra hours were added to everything. On top of it all, their quality SUCKED! I mean SUCKED! NOTHING worked well, nothing!

Halfway into the project we took over. We finished 2/3 of the project for 1/3 the cost the company already paid to the Indians. We also tackled the hard parts. The Indian company didn't have anything but those 6 week wonders who could think past the simple stuff.

Remember, the Indians usually have little education but will lie and claim each person has at least a Masters and 10 years experience. No kidding. They lie, and big time. They get a 6 week programming course, spend a few years banging out code in sweat shops (not kidding, again), then, if they can hold it together, get to come to America, Japan, or England as their Golden Ticket.

[MelBelle]

This ticks me off. I can't stand seeing how happy India is for getting our US IT jobs. I lost my job to an Indian June 1st and am trying to figure out what I should do next. I'm calling the UE office today to sign up for job re-training.

My friends/family ask me how the job hunt is going...I don't EVEN feel like sending out one more resume for an IT job.

I'm thankful that my husband has a meeting coming up with a record label. The chances of him getting a deal and going on tour are getting better each day!! I used to joke about his chances of getting a record deal and me getting an IT job are the same and the very next week he lands a meeting with a record label. I'm studying to become a tour manager/business manager....Do you think musicians jobs will go to India??? I sure hope not.