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Clinton Wields Hot Pen In LR (Free Republic Mentioned)
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | July 26, 2003 | HILARY HILLIARD

Posted on 07/26/2003 5:21:27 PM PDT by sweetliberty

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To: fly_so_free
Sorry- Gremlins in the 'puter. It double posted
141 posted on 07/28/2003 11:23:45 PM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democratic party. Save the USA-Vote a democrat out of offic)
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To: sweetliberty; Travelgirl; maxplunder; Budge; Ronson; DCBryan1
Excellent work, FReepers! :-)
142 posted on 07/28/2003 11:31:29 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: DCBryan1
AK
Yikes! I am so embarrassed!

(Hey, I'm an East Coaster. You know how we get about any place west of us.)
143 posted on 07/29/2003 7:00:35 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Travelgirl
The question and answer portion was excellent. I just think the costumes have seen their times. I say this with all due respect. We are in a time of war. Our troops are dying daily. I DO think we need to address the serious aspects of the Clintons. And I thank you guys, especially my dear friend Budge for doing so. I guess I have "Clinton costume" fatigue.

But I am getting a queasy feeling in my stomach when I see the costumes and I'm on YOUR side.

I'm saying (and I'm not saying it to hurt anyones feelings) I think the costumes take away from the message at this point. They have become a negative instead of a positive, especially in light of the war.

I hope you take my opinion in light of how it is intended, which is to help, and not to hurt you or do harm.

God Bless and FRegards.
144 posted on 07/29/2003 8:07:25 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Bob J; All
Sorry it took so long to reply, Couldn't find the link to this thread. That is Mini-me at my waist, or as we refered to him, "Stupid"
145 posted on 07/29/2003 8:28:45 AM PDT by maxplunder (Hoping upon Hope the USA will become FREE Again)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I believe you are sincere and your opinions thoughtful. I hope we are all big enough to accept constructive criticism for what it's worth...trying to improve what we do. All the FR chapters that have engaged in this preemptive strike against Hillary's presidential ambitions (we had our own successful FReep her in LA!) should be commended for their efforts!

It is important, before we hit the streets, to think about who is the target and devise a message that will resonate and achieve the goals for which we invest our time and money. We have to keep in mind that FReepers are not "normal people"...heheh. We are more informed and being ardent conservatives, may be more incensed at some of the debauchery of the Clinton Adminstration than the normal middle of the road voter (who should be our targets for the next election). What sets us off may not be the same for them. Unfortunately, I think some strategies that are being pushed as effective are actions that we think are hilarious but may be ineffective in achieving the goal of keeping Hillary out of the White House.

It is my opinion and the opinion of others that attacking Hillary for primarily Bill's foibles may not only be unproductive but counterproductive. For instance, previous studies have shown that when it comes to the Monica issue, Hillary elicits some sympathy as the "wronged woman"...particularly with other women. Why spend effort sending a message that may cast Hillary as a victim? If we make it easy for the left and press to label us "Clinton Haters", we've lost the advantage.

There is one thing for sure, non democrats just don't trust her. Also, people have negative feelings about the overall Clinton administration. We should use these. Reinforce people of their subconscious feelings of distrust about her. Tie Hillary to the general corruption of that Administration without getting specific. If we want to get specific, there is plenty of Hillary-only ammo such as the healthcare debacle, the pardons, the White House Silverware, her grand jury testimony, etc.

With all the tools at our disposal, I say let's keep it clean and witty...no need stooping to bathroom humor and being marginalized as typical "Clinton haters" or kooks. We need to keep in mind that hopefully there will be many more FReeper activists down the road. Let's make sure we hand them a legacy that opens doors and people's minds and projects a reputation of swift effective street activism as well as professionalism.

146 posted on 07/29/2003 9:38:10 AM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: Bob J
Well said Bob. Thanks
147 posted on 07/29/2003 11:33:35 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
"We can't keep harping on the MONICA thing"

Actually, the Monica thing was more in relation to her lying about it in the book saying that she didn't know when everybody else in the country did.

148 posted on 07/29/2003 4:01:06 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
"they anticipated 900 people - but gave out so few wristbands that they were allowing non-banded people to have their books signed?"

That was my take on it too.

149 posted on 07/29/2003 4:02:39 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
""This is history in the making," Boren said. "And since I’m a history teacher, I like to know I was involved in it." "

Oh, just give me one big f**king break........................give me a wastebasket; I need to wretch.

150 posted on 07/29/2003 4:06:47 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: sweetliberty
Actually, the Monica thing was more in relation to her lying about it in the book saying that she didn't know when everybody else in the country did.

I agree completely and to those of us who have followed her lying ways, it was just one more affront to our intelligence.

The problem is, does the average Joe and Joan middle of the road voter know about that? And if they do, do they care? My guess is many women will give her a pass and men might not think it rises to a crisis level. With our limited time we don't want to miss any opportunities to remind people of what lies at the basis of our message... Hillary does not belong in the White House because she can't be trusted and the endless succession of scandals we saw in Clinton I may continue in Clinton 2.

There are many juicy Hillary topics that have top of mind and aided awareness among the general public. Watergate, the Rose Hill Law Firm records, Vince Foster, The Puerto Rican and New York pardons, White House Silverware (in my opinion a perfect target), Hillarycare, etc. These all tie directly to her own credibility and what people could reasonably expect of her as the Commander in Chief.

We know Hillary is running for the White House, probably in 2004. Let's not allow them to marginalize our impact by effectively portraying us as those Clinton haters. We know they will try but let's not give them the baton with which to beat us over our heads.

151 posted on 07/29/2003 6:07:20 PM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: sweetliberty
When the final autograph was signed, Jolanda Stewart, a spokesman for Sam’s Club, said about 750 people had come through the store for the signing.

"It’s safe to say she signed 1,100 to 1,200 books," she said.

yep, that sounds about like typical DemocRAT math! He must have been educated in public schools.

152 posted on 07/29/2003 9:34:14 PM PDT by TheBattman
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