If Republicans actually wanted to dissolve our soveriegn borders, they wouldn't have killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court, or killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty, or killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM treaty. QED.153 posted on 08/03/2003 12:18 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: DoughtyOne
"Tenets of the global warming treaty are being implemented as fast as they can across this nation, at the state level. Another clear victory for conservatives, right?"
GWB can't be everywhere. If you've lost your state's own internal battle against Leftists, I say look first at yourself and your lack of local participation.
I am involved. And I do exercise local participation. And the tenets of the Kyoto Treaty are still being implemented. You stated that the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty was killed. Hmmm, if something is dead, does it still live on?
What further steps has our leadership taken at the federal level to block implementation of the Kyoto Treaty across this nation? Bush did renounce the Kyoto Treaty and state he would not sign on. At the time I saluted him for doing so. Now, what good will that do us if the Kyoto Treaty is implemented across this nation anyway?
Has Bush defunded a single NGO that you can name? Has he stopped them from drawing up legislation that the fifty states will rubber stamp and pass into law? He does have the power, coupled with his House and Senate partners to do just that. Has he or they?
Bush is doing his part at the national level. That you feel compelled to blame him for your own local failures just goes to show that you recognize that you need his leadership at your state level almost as much as we all need it at the national level.
Well, as I have just pointed out, he hasn't done his part at the federal level. Kyoto is still being implemented by a coordinated effort of NGOs, local governments and federal officials looking the other way.
163 posted on 08/03/2003 12:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
"You stated that the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty was killed. Hmmm, if something is dead, does it still live on? What further steps has our leadership taken at the federal level to block implementation of the Kyoto Treaty across this nation? Bush did renounce the Kyoto Treaty and state he would not sign on. At the time I saluted him for doing so. Now, what good will that do us if the Kyoto Treaty is implemented across this nation anyway? Has Bush defunded a single NGO that you can name? Has he stopped them from drawing up legislation that the fifty states will rubber stamp and pass into law?"
Yes, Bush killed the Kyoto treaty.
But Bush is not going to trample all over states' rights in order to prevent misguided states from implementing their own **aspects** of the now-dead Kyoto treaty.
Bush stopped Kyoto at the national level, and I dare say stopped it at the Texas level while he was governor there, though with a Democratic legislature back then who knows if he was really able to stop every back door aspect of Kyoto.
If you want to prevent various aspects of Kyoto from being implemented at the state level, you'll have to recognize that such actions aren't going to be labeled as "Kyoto" anything, but rather that other stealth names will be given to such actions...and you'll have to get involved at a local level. Bush can't be everywhere for you.