George F. Will:President Bush has turned conservatism on its head, infuriating many supporters

An estimated 400 BILLION dollar cost to the kids.

Nice, real nice.

Sheeeeeet, next thing you know they will expect the kids to pay their damned car insurance to...Because well, they are the largest voting block alive and they deserve it.

Answer from some here: Great, perhaps we can take care of your monthly cable fees too!

Sorry, not going to happen. They will fail on the 16 words, too--Bush's real concern on the foreign policy end is his failure to plan for post-war Iraq.

O'Connor will never be a rallying point for anyone, nor the topic of a Democratic political ad. Anger at her is a much better issue with no negative political consequences, and it would resonate with people, because most people are against racial preferences and sodomy.

Bush doesn't even have to single her out personally--just criticize the court's decisions as "contrary to common sense," "destructive of government by the people" and "contrary to self-rule."

You say potato, I say potahto. I didn't vote for an 18% increase in discretionary nondefense spending, and I'm not inclined to re-elect a candidate who gave me one.

I have no problem with that.

You did the right thing. Never apologize for doing the right thing.

200 posted on 07/24/2003 8:51 AM PDT by Consort

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Why thank you, I don't. And that is exactly why I am taking Dubya to the woodshed. He had either get his act together and represent the Right, who put him in office or he can start making plans come January 05.

And before you rant on now this. Medicare Perscription drug Coverage RAPES my childs financal future. And NO ONE ask them whether they wanted to pay for 50 years for a benefit their Rich Uncle gets. Hell no! Just stick it to em. YOu ought to be proud to support such Fascism.

The price we pay for our form of gov't. Either these trade offs or a dictator. The good with the bad.

Something I notice about folks who stamp their feet and cry like you are doing is they never see that all of life is trade-offs. It really is an immature view of life.

Last post directed at you was a bit harsh.
I'll ratchet it down a tad.

Sorry.

(dragging out inflamed voter excuse card)

Something I notice about folks who stamp their feet and cry like you are doing is they never see that all of life is trade-offs. It really is an immature view of life.

205 posted on 07/24/2003 8:57 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right) --------------------------

I don't call a redistribution of weath a trade off. More like sticking the bill to a group of Americans that can't speak (politically) for themselves that will affect the kind of live they are able to live.

Damned sorry excuse for being Mature if you ask me.

The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were designed to prevent that sort of "either-or" scenario. Of course that assumes that such documents are adhered to inthe first place :<

He had either get his act together and represent the Right, who put him in office or he can start making plans come January 05.

That's the Conservative Death Wish mentality that lost the White House for us. Bush 41 should have been reelected whether he liked it or not. With several possible Supreme Court vacancies coming up, we can not let the Dems control the nominating/approval process. So, electing the GOP nominee is very important, even if it's Bush.

Do Republicans really support smaller government? Here are some interesting facts:

Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress from 1995 through 2001 during which time the federal budget grew from $1.4 trillion to $2.1 trillion (about $100 billion annually). [source]
Since Republicans took control of the House in 1995, federal discretionary spending has grown by a rate of about 7% annually. The number of earmarks lawmakers have put in the spending bills to steer federal funds to their districts has also grown. By one estimate, between fiscal years 2001 and 2002, they increased from about 6,300 to 8,300, or 32%. [source]
Social welfare programs under George W. Bush have grown by $96 billion in just two years, versus $51 billion under six years of Clinton, according to economist Stephen Moore of the Club for Growth. [source]
When Ronald Reagan became president in 1981 the federal budget was $680 billion. When he left office in 1989 the federal budget was $1.14 trillion -- an increase of 67%. [source]
The last Republican presidents to preside over a decrease in federal spending were Warren G. Harding (who served from 1921 until his death in 1923) and Calvin Coolidge (who served from 1923 until 1929). During that time federal spending decreased 44% from $5 billion to $2.85 billion. However, spending began increasing again in 1928 before Calvin Coolidge left office. [source]

WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION PROGRAMS & POLITICAL BOONDOGGLES

[source] $5 billion bailout and $10 billion loan for airlines via the Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act.
[source] $521 million Amtrak budget for fiscal 2002.
[source] $205 million bailout plus $100 million loan to Amtrak.
[source] Dept. of Transportation budget increased by 6% over fiscal 2001 to $59.5 billion. (riddled with pork)
[source] $145 million for the New Freedom Initiative to ensure transportation alternatives for people with disabilities.
[source] "Homebuyer bill of rights" to Reform Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act -- federal regulation of real estate.
[source] Continued anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft.
[source] $1 billion over 5 years for the poor to purchase homes via the "American Dream Down Payment Fund."
[source] Proposed $3.7 billion in new Medicare funding over the next three years (2003-2005) .
[source] Health care subsidies for laid-off workers and expanded job retraining benefits ($10 billion to $12 billion over 10 years).
[source] Wage insurance -- federal wage supplement.
[source] $67 million in taxpayers' money to finance presidential campaign via federal matching funds.
[source] Issued executive order creating the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives.
[source] Submitted largest budget ever to Congress, $2.13 trillion.
[source] Increased debt-limit from $5.95 trillion to $6.4 trillion.
[source] Scholarships for Cuban students and professionals via the Initiative for a New Cuba.
[source] Increased budget for National Health Service Corps by $44 million to $191.5 million.
[source] $150 million for the Coast Guard and the Customs Service to hire new personnel.
[source] Increased farm subsidies by $180 billion over 10 years via the Farm Security Act.
[source] Increased Pentagon budget by 12% over fiscal 2001 from $316 billion to $355 billion.
[source] $560 million for the USA Freedom Corps which includes $230 million for AmeriCorps.
[source] Double the number of Peace Corps volunteers at a cost of $200 million over five years.
[source] $3.5 million for SuperBowl anti-drug ads.
[source] Faith-based subsidies.
[source] Increased federal spending on education from $39.9 billion to $44.5 billion via the "No Child Left Behind Act."
[source] Signed Congressional payraise of $4,900.
[source] Patients Bill of Rights.
[source] Federal Compassion Capital Fund, $700 million over 10 years.
[source] $100 million to beef up investigative manpower and technology at the SEC.
[source] $6 million to upgrade a U.S. Geological Survey data center near Sioux Falls, S.D.
[source] $10 million to help farmers near the Rio Grande River involved in a water dispute with Mexico.
[source] $7 million for enhancing water supplies in New Mexico.
[source] A provision pressuring the Agriculture Department to reimburse poultry producers in West Virginia and Virginia for losses from avian influenza.
[source] $1 billion for Pell grants for low-income students.
[source] $417 million for veterans' medical care.
[source] $400 million to help states improve voting systems.
[source] $100 million for countering western wildfires and floods.
[source] Taxpayer-funded national memorial, congressional gold medals, and gold coins for victims of 9/11.
[source] Scholarships and grants to nurses and help hospitals with retention.
[source] Increased the NEA budget by $10 million, to $126 million.
[source] $200,000 for a trucker congestion notification system in Tacoma, Washington.
[source] $500,000 to save the Prebles Meadow Jumping Mouse in Colorado.
[source] $62 million to promote the Sacajawea dollar coin.
[source] $100,000 a month to monitor news reports and offer advice on media strategy for the Pentagon.
[source] $1.5 million for maintenance of the Vulcan Statue in Alabama built for the 1904 World's Fair.
[source] $20 million annually for "Strategic Milk Reserve." Was phased out in 1999 by the 1996 Freedom to Farm Act. Congress extended it temporarily, and then made it permanent again in the farm bill that President Bush signed into law in May.
[source] $877 million in disaster relief for victims of Tropical Storm Allison.
[source] $2 million in federal recovery assistance to typhoon victims in Guam.
[source] Steel and lumber tariffs.
[source] $1.7 billion plus $300 million in emergency funds for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) via the Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2001.
[source] $230 million for the Weatherization Assistance Program.
[source] Federal disaster relief for tonado victims in Maryland.
[source] Payoff to families of 9/11 victims with taxpayer money via the "Victim Compensation Fund."
[source] Bush pushes for school vouchers.
[source] $450,000 in federal funds for the Chicago Project for Violence Prevention for fiscal year 2003 on top of $750,000 in 2002.
[source] $752 million in drought aid to livestock farmers.
[source] $30 million in research grants over the next five years to develop new ways of making industrial products from plants and natural waste materials.
[source] $10 billion military reserve fund for the Pentagon.
[source] National Institute of Health to spend $24 million on a retirement facility for chimpanzees.
[source] $750,000 for grasshopper research in Alaska.
[source] $2 million to house a worm collection at the Smithsonian museum in Washington, DC.
[source] $400,000 to study manure management at the National Swine Research Center in Iowa.
[source] $4.2 million for a shrimp aquiculture research project in six states.
[source] $400,000 for the Montana Sheep Institute.
[source] $23.1 billion for the National Institute of Health for fiscal 2002, a 13.5% increase over fiscal 2001.
[source] $10 million upgrade for Amber Alerts.
[source] $1 million to upgrade a law enforcement communication system in Placer County, CA.
[source] $850,000 for a wastewater treatment facility in Placer County, CA
[source] $1.7 million to purchase 6,100 acres of land along the American River.
[source] $14 million for restoration projects in the Lake Tahoe basin.
[source] $3 million for the acquisition of land for rare plant preserves in El Dorado County, CA.
[source] $600,000 for the West Blount sewer system. (Alabama)
[source] $1 million for the Duck River Dam. (Alabama)
[source] $99,000 for sidewalk improvements at Vinemont Middle School. (Alabama)
[source] $100 million in grants for communities to develop mosquito-control programs. (pending)
[source] $753 million for Import-Export Bank.
Increased loan limit for Import-Export Bank to $25 billion. Taxpayers must guarantee loans.
[source] $159 billion deficit for fiscal 2002.
[source] $14.2 million for Phoenix Sky Harbor traffic control tower replacement. (pending)
[source] $4.2 million for Phoenix bus facilities. (pending)
[source] $500,000 for a Scottsdale pilot project to determine the best technologies for removing arsenic from drinking water. (pending)
[source] $300,000 for a Southwest Transit Assessment and Review Team (START) project for Bus Route 131, which runs through Avondale. (pending)
[source] $500,000 for Central Arizona College to continue implementation of the Science, Engineering, Math and Aerospace Academy in Pinal County. (pending)
[source] $1 million for Rio de Flag (Flagstaff) flood-control project. (pending)
[source] $1.5 million for Maricopa County's AZTech Integrated Emergency and Transportation Communications Network. (pending)
[source] Creation of new federal bureaucracy, Office of Rare Diseases.
[source] $100 per month federal subsidy to welfare parents who marry.
[source] $8 million to maintain a heating oil reserve to stabilize prices in the U.S. Northeast. This fund was created in 2000 by Bill Clinton.
[source] $2 billion over 10 years to help companies develop cleaner-burning coal.
[source] $87 billion in corporate welfare which includes (but is not limited to) funds for oil companies through the fossil energy research and development program, research subsidies to aerospace companies, the National Agricultural Statistics Service, the Foreign Agriculture Service, and the Conservation Reserve Program.
[source] $6 million for teaching English through the Elementary School Foreign Language Incentive Program.
[source] The federal government currently provides $700-800 million in annual ethanol subsidies.
[source] $37 billion through 2007 for the National Science Foundation via the National Science Foundation Authorization Act of 2002. (pending)
[source] $15 billion for NASA fiscal 2003.
[source] $903 million in grants to spur federal agencies, industry and universities to devote more energy to cyber security research.
[source] $533 million over two years for Project Safe Neighborhoods. Billed on the official website as "America's Network Against Gun Violence."
[source] $900 million for the President's "Reading First" plan.
[source] $28.9 billion "anti-terror" package. (As if the federal government didn't already spend enough on defense)
[source] Increased FDA budget by over $120 million.
[source] $1.1 billion for federal reading programs.
[source] Proposed economic stimulus package which could cost as much as $600 billion over 10 years.
[source] Ordered military to begin deploying a missile defense system.
[source] Urged Congress to raise pay of federal judges who already earn $150,000 or more annually.
[source] Increased the National Science Foundation budget from $4.8 billion to $7.4 billion in 2005 and $9.8 billion in 2007.
[source] Proposed increasing defense spending to $378.5 billion next fiscal year from the $364.1 billion appropriated by Congress for fiscal 2003.
[source] $782 billion in new spending for fiscal 2003 above what Washington spent in the previous four years.
[source] Reinstated program to pay cash bonuses to political appointees. The program was previously stopped during the Clinton administration because of concerns about potential abuse.
[source] "Terror insurance" which would force taxpayers to compensate those affected by future terrorist attacks.
[source] Up to $3,000 for unemployed Americans to pay for their job searches.
[source] Billions to the nuclear industry to make high-temperature, gas-cooled reactors via the Energy Policy Act of 2003.
[source] $11 billion over the next 3 years to build up war capability in S. Korea.
[source] Federal deficit for fiscal 2003 approaching $400 billion.
[source] Federal grant money to renovate the Old North Church in Boston, MA.
[source] $4.2 million in grazing refunds for Montana.
[source] $8 million for firearms training for commercial pilots.
[source] $1.7 billion over the next five years on hydrogen development.
FOREIGN-AID & FOREIGN INTERVENTIONISM
[source] Over 230 American service personnel killed in Iraq.
[source] Civilian deaths in Iraq due to areal bombardment, undetonated ordinance (such as cluster bombs), and firearms estimated at 6,000 to 7,700 according to news reports.
[source 1] [source 2] Civilian deaths in Afghanistan due to areal bombardment estimated at between 3,100 to 3,600.
[source] Thousands of civilians killed, hundreds of thousands displaced by areal bombing in Afghanistan.
[source] Invaded and bombed Afghanistan without Congressional declaration of war. Only Congress can declare war.
[source] Boost in American foreign-aid by 50% to more than $15 billion annually.
[source] Meddling in Zimbabwe by threatening to withhold foreign-aid (Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act of 2001).
[source] $474 million to combat HIV/AIDS overseas, including $100 million for a global trust fund, and $200 million for international disaster assistance.
[source] $676 million for South American anti-drug plan.
[source] $800 million in assistance to independent states of the former Soviet Union.
[source] $2.04 billion in military financing and $720 million in economic assistance for Israel.
[source] $1.3 billion in military assistance and $655 million in economic assistance for Egypt.
[source] $75 million in military financing and $150 million in economic assistance for Jordan. (2001)
[source] US Senate unanimously approves $582 million payment to United Nations. (2001)
[source] $440 million to colombian military to fight drug war. (2002)
[source] $120 million in foreign-aid to Uzbekistan. (2002)
[source] $43 million in foreign-aid to the Taliban government of Afghanistan to fight the War on Drugs.
[source] $500 million in funding to combat AIDS in Africa and the Caribbean between 2002 and 2004.
[source] $255 million over two years to expand US media influence in predominantly Muslim countries.
[source] $1.5 billion bailout of Uruguay.
[source] $64 million for "Education and Equipment" program to train Georgian military.
[source] $1.1 billion loan from the U.S. International Monetary Fund to Turkey.
[source] $4.5 billion spending plan to help african nations reduce disease and famine and cultivate energy, clean water and forests.
[source] U.S. Drug Czar calls for War on Marijuana during visit to Canada.
[source] Continued sending fuel to North Korea under the 1994 Agreed Framework despite the intelligence community's suspicion that North Korea has had nukes since the early 1990's.
[source] Agreed to pay Pakistan $700 million plus an economic package in exchange for the use of Pakistani air bases from which the US launched air strikes against Afghanistan.
[source] Bush Administration withheld news of North Korea confirming its nuclear weapons program for two weeks while it secured Congressional support to attack Iraq.
[source] Threatened Canada with trade sanctions if Canada relaxes its marijuana laws.
[source] White House said pre-emptive attacks are permissible for the US against Iraq but the same logic does not hold for India which is fighting Pakistan-sponsored terrorism.
[source] White House detailed a plan to install an American-led military government in Iraq if the US overthrows the current government.
[source] $10 million in foreign-aid to the Philippines to "fight terror."
[source] Agreed to give North Korea two nuclear power reactors.
[source] $3 billion in foreign-aid for Afghanistan (pending).
[source] $320 million in humanitarian and economic aid to address food shortages in Afghanistan and in neighboring countries.
[source] $98 million in new Pentagon training and equipment for Colombian military.
[source] $120 million for UNICEF.
[source] $92 million to train Iraqi militia to take on Saddam.
[source] Renewed sanctions against Libya.
[source] Continued to send "food-aid" to North Korea.
[source] Promised a foreign-aid package to Turkey in the event of an Iraqi war.
[source] Offered $29 million and pledged to seek more from Congress to fund "modernization programs" in Arab countries.
[source] $3.4 billion in foreign-aid to Turkey in exchange for use of Turkish military bases in the event of war with Iraq.
[source] $2.3 billion over the next four years for rebuilding Afghanistan and $1 billion to expand peacekeeping forces outside the capital city of Kabul.
[source] Creation of new federal agency to dole out billions in foreign-aid.
[source] $17 million in military aid to Nepal.
[source] USAID to help educational projects of the Punjab government.
[source] Bush offers Turkey a $1 billion cash grant and up to $8.5 billion loan.
[source] $5 billion in supplemental aid to U.S. allies that include Bahrain, Israel, Jordan, Oman and Turkey.
[source] $18 million to UN agencies for humanitarian work in Iraq.
[source] $2.4 million to help the Tajik government fight drug trafficking.
[source] 15,000 U.S. troops to be stationed in Australia.
[source] $8 million to the Iraqi National Congress.
[source] $4 million for television and radio broadcasts by the Iraqi opposition.
[source] $200 million to the United Nations World Food Program (WFP) to purchase regional food aid for Iraq.
[source] Bush pledges an extra $100 million for Afghanistan.
SUBJUGATION OF FREEDOM, CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, & POWER GRABS
[source] Working to circumvent Posse Comitatus in order to use military for law enforcement.
[source] Signed Campaign Finance Reform.
[source] Made his intention clear to exclude non-believers from serving on the juduciary in violation of Article 6, USC which states, "...no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office..."
[source] Creation of new federal bureaucracy, Dept. of Homeland Security.
[source] Freezing private assets without due process under the guise of fighting terrorism.
[source] Domestic spying by FBI without evidence of criminal activity.
[source] US to fingerprint Arab and Muslim visitors to the US.
[source] Federalized airport security.
[source] Continued federal asset forfeiture.
[source] Enron scandal. Questionable campaign contributions.
[source] Secret trials, military tribunals, monitoring of conversations between lawyers and suspects, indefinite detention of suspects without due process.
[source] "Magic Latern" FBI spyware.
[source] Dept. of Justice monitoring cable modems without warrants.
[source] Continued crackdown on medical marijuana. Cannabis Clubs raided in California despite legalization via ballot measure.
[source] Transportation Security Administration to place armed law enforcement officers at ticket counters and other public areas at airports.
[source] Proposed 'federal standards' for state drivers licenses.
[source] Public schools required to turn over student information to military recruiters.
[source] Federal drug czar John P. Walters denounced a ballot initiative in Arizona that would decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana, calling it a "stupid, insulting con."
[source] FCC blocked EchoStar's plan to acquire rival Directv.
[source] BATF forced owner of Bob's Gun & Tackle Shop to hand over sales record for each used firearm bought and sold at the store in 1999.
[source] Believes in stronger enforcement of existing gun-control laws.
[source] Added 444,000 acres in Clark County, Nevada to the national wilderness preservation system.
[source] Antitrust investigation against Village Voice Media LLC.
[source] Issued executive order to step up taxpayer-funded subsidies to religious charities.
[source] Proposed age discrimination rules on some pensions.
[source] Humanitarian group fined $50,000 for bringing medicine to Iraq without a federal permit.
[source] Signed legisation toughening seatbelt requirements and creating a new ".kids.us" Internet domain suffix.
[source] Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) interrogated more than 5,000 Iraqis living in the United States.
[source] Justice Department and FBI have dramatically increased the use of two little-known powers that allow authorities to tap telephones, seize bank and telephone records and obtain other information in counterterrorism investigations with no immediate court oversight.
[source] Bush signs executive order delaying the release of 25-year-old classified documents until 2006.

In the meanwhile, I think that we actually help Bush's chances by making things as hot as possible for him, on his increasingly severe deviations from traditional American values. The only chance he may have, is if we scare him into moving in our direction, and it is essential that that move be sooner, rather than later.

I am amazed at the number of people on conservative website who consider that statement to be heresy. In the name of pragmatism they will loudly denounce any attempts to pressure the Administration to move to the right as enabling a Democratic victory.

Holding the present course does not reverse the slide to the left. The vector has changed slightly in magnitude, not one whit in direction. Ultimately, who is behind the wheel or the steepness of the arc as you're going over the cliff is immaterial.

Ouch, now That is gonna leave a mark.

Yes, since the welfare state is completely unconstitutional, George Will is basically saying that violating the Constitution isn't inherently unconservative.

That seems pretty obvious, from viewing the actions of the vast majority of conservative politicians. But it's surprising to see a conservative proclaim a complete abandonment of an ideal.

Yes, since the welfare state is completely unconstitutional, George Will is basically saying that violating the Constitution isn't inherently unconservative.

I agree on both points. BTW, I am launching a study into the creation of the welfare state in America. I would appreciate anyone posting here or FreepMailing me some sources.

My goal is to create an essay on the precise moment when we jumped the shark. I suspect it was when FDR expanded the Supreme Court to nine justices so that his new appointees could outvote those Constitutionalists: the Four Horsemen who slapped down the first attempts to institute the New Deal.

Excellent list thank you for posting it

There are still a few FR posters left that want limited government and that are not the right's equivalent of the Clinton Kool Aid drinkers.

No no no no

That really is a warm rain you feel on the back of your neck. :)

Trust em.