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George F. Will:President Bush has turned conservatism on its head, infuriating many supporters
The Union Leader, Manchester, NH ^ | July 24, 2003 | George F. Will

Posted on 07/24/2003 4:00:40 AM PDT by RJCogburn

Edited on 07/24/2003 4:39:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

THIS IS THE is the summer of conservatives? discontent. Conservatism has been disoriented by events in the last several weeks. Cumulatively, foreign and domestic developments constitute an identity crisis of conservatism, which is being recast ? and perhaps rendered incoherent.

George W. Bush may be the most conservative person to serve as President since Calvin Coolidge. Yet his Presidency is coinciding with, and is in some instances initiating or ratifying, developments disconcerting to four factions within conservatism. The faction that focuses on foreign policy has four core principles: Preserve U.S. sovereignty and freedom of action by marginalizing the United Nations. Reserve military interventions for reasons of U.S. national security, not altruism. Avoid peacekeeping operations that compromise the military?s war-fighting proficiencies. Beware of the political hubris inherent in the intensely unconservative project of ?nation-building.?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrine; conservatism; georgefwill
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To: MrLeRoy
I was wondering when you would get around to that stock answer. Next thread.
121 posted on 07/24/2003 7:50:41 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Area51
I an sorry to say that Body bags with American Soldiers are being filed everyday.

And the people support the war by wide margins

Tax breaks-That money will mean nothing come election day. Do you hear anyone talking about the first one? And to think that in a year and a half someone is gonna care is niave.

Yes, I hear from all sort of people that they are greatfull the taxes are lower. I prepare their income taxes. The second round of checks are being sent in a few weeks. Watch.

Sure Dubya lowered our taxes but you had better be honest with yourself about it. First, it gets reversed in a few years AND we are about to get stuck with a estimated 400 Billion dollar Social program, we can't afford.

The reversal is another brilliant tactic. The continuation of the tax breaks will become a campaign issue. Second, the public doesn;t seem to care abiout the deficits and the economists say they are reasonable given the slow economy, the war and the ratio to our GNP.

Care to wager how that gets paid for. Increase of SSI or Mecare witholding and or the increase in the age of Retirement?

Increased economy.

You think your getting a deal?

The onllway to bring spending down is to starve the beast. Frankly, I'd rather see the elderly get health care than use the money for the favorite pork of the day.

122 posted on 07/24/2003 7:50:53 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: _Jim
HOW did this/these bills arrive on his desk?

From a GOP-controlled Congress.

123 posted on 07/24/2003 7:50:56 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
Take a look at the House vote for Reagan's tax cuts in 81. Reagan went over Tip O"neill's head with the help of 50 or 60 boll weavil democrats.

Take a look at any tax decrease bill in the House today and you may have 4 or 5 voting for the tax cut bill.

A lot of the boll weavils either became Republicans or were rplaced by Republicans when the Pubbies gained seats in state legislatures, especially in the south.

124 posted on 07/24/2003 7:52:13 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Consort
Then my vote is only a statement of personal belief---in which case I'll cast it for the candidate whose platform I most agree with.

I was wondering when you would get around to that stock answer.

I'm wondering when you will get around to a substantive response.

125 posted on 07/24/2003 7:52:16 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: _Jim
I have YET to hear one cite (the actual citation of an article from a given publication) from him on the air as the basis for the incredible claims he makes, claims that ALWAYS slant towards the well-established one-world/ New World Order 'view' he has ...

Since his documentation comes from mainstream news sources, you can check out the accuracy for yourself....he posts the articles on his website.

He BLEW it regarding Y2K too BTW - were you aware of this? - completely BLEW it - no gov't takeovers, no seizure of power et cetera.

Actually, Alex was one of the few who got it right concerning Y2K.

126 posted on 07/24/2003 7:52:22 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: Consort
Compassionate Conservatism is nothing more than Socialism lite.

And who is going to do any better?
93 posted on 07/24/2003 7:32 AM PDT by Consort

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Well there you have it folks. Dubya's 04 Campaign Slogan.

I am in Awe. Damned you are good. Jessh, no sense even talking about it anymore. Hell, let's just suppend the whole Costitution and annoint the guy King!

127 posted on 07/24/2003 7:53:41 AM PDT by Area51
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To: _Jim
"You need to write your congressman and express your views...."

"It's too late to work within the system...."

128 posted on 07/24/2003 7:53:42 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: MrLeRoy
From a GOP-controlled Congress.

Actually for one year the demos controlled the Senate and the Senate is filled with RINO's, Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, etc.

129 posted on 07/24/2003 7:53:53 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
OK. Doesn't change the fact that Dubya has a House majority---and the veto power.
130 posted on 07/24/2003 7:54:11 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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Maybe someone can answer, who was the (R) candidate in NJ who Bush threw under the bus and would not support, and instead opted the safe route and backed the RINO? Was it NJ? Thanks in advance.

Actually, which RINO's did Bush actively campaign for?
131 posted on 07/24/2003 7:54:36 AM PDT by Stew Padasso (pro-rock.com - bsnn.net - libertyteeth.com - BFD - Puff Puff Ping)
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To: Dane
the Senate is filled with RINO's

So is the White House. Where's that veto stamp?

132 posted on 07/24/2003 7:55:01 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: VRWC_minion
The onllway to bring spending down is to starve the beast.

It's not working---the deficit is over $400 billion.

133 posted on 07/24/2003 7:56:02 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: Area51
It's called the VETO. I figure the Clintons must have stole the stamp

LOL!

134 posted on 07/24/2003 7:57:02 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
Takes time to starve a beast.
135 posted on 07/24/2003 7:57:48 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Miss Marple
Lower taxes, strong military, fighting the war on terror
Okay he's hawkish, never mind fighting the war on terror would actually mean taking the fight to the terrorists in Saudi Arabia

demanding standards from educators
And how is maintaining a standard for education at the national level conservative? It's another misassumed right at the national level

encouraging a culture of life,
Not speaking out when the Supreme Court condones sodomy doesn't sound like it encourages life, well maybe deviant life

acting like a gentleman even when the Rats are attacking, being president of all the people.
Boy howdy those last two, wow you've got me. That's it. Looks good in a flight suit, nice to his wife, and he's well behaved. H#ll, let's make him President for life as that ilk Hamilton suggested we have, eh?

136 posted on 07/24/2003 7:58:44 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Stew Padasso
Maybe someone can answer, who was the (R) candidate in NJ who Bush threw under the bus and would not support, and instead opted the safe route and backed the RINO? Was it NJ? Thanks in advance

BS. Schundler wasn't thrown under a bus. He won the primary. Bush did recorded telephone calls for him. Guiliani, who was very popular becuase of his performance during the 9/11 crisis, actively campaigned for him.

Schundler lost because NJ was liberal. Seeing McGreevey's latest poll ratings it seems that a lot of NJ voters are having buyers remorse.

137 posted on 07/24/2003 7:58:54 AM PDT by Dane
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To: RJCogburn
Wow, what insight!

Guess I'll have to vote for Hillary or Dean in 04.

138 posted on 07/24/2003 7:58:54 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Area51
I am in Awe.

Don't you mean "shock and awe"? Oh, and you failed to answer the question. OK, I'll answer it for you: It's Bush and the GOP until something better comes along. Don't whine.

139 posted on 07/24/2003 7:59:19 AM PDT by Consort
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To: hoi-polloi
This Administration has supported the creation of a new Federal Department...

Who was the Republican Congressman who pleaded for a zero-sum policy when it comes to Federal departments? He said something like "can we please get rid of Commerce or something?" It was hilarious; I just can't think who it was.

140 posted on 07/24/2003 7:59:55 AM PDT by jayhd
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