DEVELOPING: SECRET SERVICE CONCERN AFTER LOS ANGELES TIMES COMIC DEPICTS 'BUSH ASSASSINATION'

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[ConservativeMan55]

DEVELOPING: SECRET SERVICE CONCERN AFTER LOS ANGELES TIMES COMIC DEPICTS 'BUSH ASSASSINATION'

[Calpernia]

BUMP!!!!

[Quick1]

What basis in law do you have to prove that it is illegal? Be specific, please.

Remember, this cartoon is not a threat on the President.

[windchime]

"Uh, it was not a photo, it was an 8mm video tape (movie camera) taken of this NVC getting his head blown off. In the actual video tape this guy drops to the ground like a sack of potatoes with blood pouring out of his head like a garden hose."


NBC aired the tape (without warning) and it took an hour to console my teenaged daughter who was very young while the Vietnam war was in progress.

This cartoon elicits the same initial reaction in many who have posted here. Others don't find it objectionable at all. If this many interpretations can result from observation by people I consider to be of above average intelligence, the cartoonist made a bad choice in sending it to press - no matter how he intended it.

Another take I had was:

Iraq = Vietnam (quagmire, guerilla warfare, etc.)

Today is the 10th anniversary of the departure of Vincent Foster from the Clinton administration

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

You have read the 1st Amendment? You want to shut down a newspaper because you don't like what was printed? LOL. That's about as un-American as you can get, isn't it?

How about cartoons of masked men in death squads blowing up left wing newspapers? Is that OK?

Go yell fire in a crowded theater and then explain to the judge at your arraignment you were exercising your first amendment rights. Then get back to me about the limitations on that right.

[arasina]

Gulp. I remember that photo; I just didn't remember her name. I'm sure I mispronounced it as well, and took your comment as humor. My grievous error. Please forgive me.

[Helms]

Count the number of windows of the building on the left-rear.

[Quick1]

How about cartoons of masked men in death squads blowing up left wing newspapers? Is that OK?

That's probably legal, as well.

[The Wizard]

You words are welcome....

I only know one thing....this is not humor, it is not satire, it is not political speech:

It's showing the killing of our President to everyone who saw this happen all those years ago, and it is totally unacceptable behavior by a mainstream paper, and the advertisers should be pummled until they pressure the LA Times to appologize on PAGE 1

[Helms]

Count the number of windows of the building on the RIGHT REAR, VERTICALLY AND HORIZONTALLY. RIGHT DOWN TO THE ASSASSINS CRUMPLED SHIRT.

[yooper]

"The jug-ears are OK, but the other facial features are just not recognizable."

They're recognizable if you flash back to the picture taken in Vietnam of the "evil" government official offing a Cong.

The editor who approved this piece of hate should be sacked about 3 seconds after he reports to work tomorrow morning.

[Miss Marple]

Joe, I don't want to belabor the point, but from the information in reply #184, you can see that there was both a print photo and a film.

Eddie Adams' photo of the execution won a Pulitzer Prize for The Associated Press. NBC also showed film of the execution.

You must have seen the film. I was a bit older and saw the photo in the paper, since I was away at school.

[Terp]

I am old enough to remember the original photo and I never would have recognized the cartoon as a copy of that photo had someone not posted it here.

Don't know how old you are, I'm 48 and the first thought that went through my mind on seeing the cartoon was that it was a copy. That is was saying the same thing i.e. the President's a dead man.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Another take I had was: Iraq = Vietnam (quagmire, guerilla warfare, etc.)

Well, in Iraq today, it is a guerilla war against us. This is clear. As far as quagmire goes, only time will tell.

[OldFriend]

Oh, the secret service is concerned about a cartoon......but they allow an uncredentialled man onto the press plane and into the hotel where the President was about to speak.

[Joe Hadenuf]

LOL.....

[StupidQuestions]

No one has proposed assassinating the President. That is not in the cartoon. There is no advocacy, no threat and no intention to see the President killed.

It is perfectly acceptable to shout FIRE in a crowded theater if there is really a fire or if you think there is a fire. The question is what the 1st Amendment means and everytime an exception to its clear meaning is made, the concept of free speech is weakened.

The 'Fire' and the fighting words exceptions are Supreme Court 'refinements' of the Amendment's meaning. They were considered necessary for the orderly functioning of society.

But then, many people suggest that some additional 'refinements' of the 2nd Amendment may be necessary for the orderly functioning of society. They may be right but any modification of the Bill of Rights strikes me as dangerous simply because of the slippery slope theory.

I am a realist and I accept the reality of the exceptions to the Amendment already made. But I also think we could function as a society with absolute Free Speech and with an absolute right to weapons. It is just that we have found it easier to limit both the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

[fightu4it]

"Nobody expects the spanish inquisition"

At the current rate of decline there soon won't be any "Bishops" left to hold one. :^)

[The Wizard]

there is no excuse for this cartoon. Period.

[Neenah]

I know !! I am an artist, and notice every detail ! You'd think he, an artist, would be smarter than this !!

Thanks for posting it !

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

It is a little frightening just how stupid and knee-jerking some of our fellow FReepers are.

Be gentle with your fellow Freepers. We have every reason to be defensive and to expect the worse from the press right now. Calmer voices will prevail in the end. Still, if thoughtful Freepers respond instantly in this way, what might an inflamed actual Bush-hater do seeing that pic?

Did you ever read the transcript of the UN racism conference - a week of anti-American, anti-Israel bashing - ending 9-9-01?