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To: Cyber Liberty
More excerpts [it's a great thread]:
Using a series of magnets to accelerate a metal slug - it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do. Right?

Also, aren't "Guass Guns" are more widely known via the games (both board- and PC-) BattleTech and Mechwarrior?


Gauss Rifles are from battletech.

Interestingly, I don't think the mass of the slug makes all that much difference to the eventual damage - force = mass * acceleration

So using lighter weights would be advantageous, up until the point where the projectile becomes too light to keep a decent trajectory in a cross wind.

And of course, there is the Particle Projection Cannon, with a charged particle instead of a magnetic slug...


Interestingly, I don't think the mass of the slug makes all that much difference to the eventual damage - force = mass * acceleration

This does not quite translate into how a round will effect a target. Particularly a soft one. A light projectile travelling extremely fast will penetrate a human (for example, lets take the NATO 5.56x45mm round) and do significant damage, but won't always be lethal, because the high velocity causes it to penetrate and keep going, rather than transfer all its energy to the target. Compare to a 7.62mm round, which is traveling slower, heavier than a 5.56, but it does LOTs more damage


The real-world lethality of a round of ammo is highly complex and often counterintuitive; not all of the mechanisms that increase or decrease lethality are well-understood. While the kinetic energy (KE = 1/2 M V^2) and momentum (P = MV) have an undeniable relationship to lethality, they are demonstrably not the only factors, as there are real-world comparisons which show rounds with lower KE and momentum which are more lethal than ones with more KE and momentum.

Personally I shoot 9MM; my preferred ammo is 147gr@980fps, compared a more conventional loading of 125gr@1160fps. Real-world statistics show that the 147gr loadout has a slightly better track record of one-shot kills than the 125gr, even though the 147gr has roughly the same momentum and 20% less KE.

The M-16, firing the 5.56 nato round, has roughly 70% as much kinetic energy and momentum as the 7.62 Russian round used by the AK-47. Yet, pradoxically, battlefield statistics from show that the survival rate of people shot with 7.62Rus is significantly higher than that of people shot with 5.56NATO.


IIRC, the light 5.56mm slug is unstable, and tumbles when it hits an object. It spins in the body like a circular saw.

The new, heavier round used with the M16A2 is more stable, hits and penetrates better, but is less lethal.


4 posted on 07/19/2003 2:47:58 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
<Gamer-Geek>Gauss Rifles are actually from Traveller and possibly from an earlier work of science fiction (Traveller drew inspiration from many sources). FASA, the company that created BattleTech and Mechwarrior (originally "BattleDroids" until George Lucas' lawyers asked them nicely to change the name), started out as a company that produced Traveller supplements. So I'm confident in saying that Traveller came before BattleTech but I'm not sure if there was an earlier science fiction source. Yes, BattleTech was originally a tabletop war game played with hex maps and miniatures or cardboard figures.</Gamer-Geek>
7 posted on 07/19/2003 7:28:35 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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