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Text of Tony Blair's speech to the US Congress
Prime Minister Tony Blair ^ | 7/17/2003

Posted on 07/17/2003 11:41:18 PM PDT by thoughtomator

Tony Blair's speech to the US Congress

Friday July 18, 2003

"Thank you. Mr Speaker and Mr Vice President, honorable members of Congress, I'm deeply touched by that warm and generous welcome. That's more than I deserve and more than I'm used to, quite frankly.

And let me begin by thanking you most sincerely for voting to award me the Congressional Gold Medal. But you, like me, know who the real heroes are: those brave service men and women, yours and ours, who fought the war and risk their lives still. And our tribute to them should be measured in this way, by showing them and their families that they did not strive or die in vain, but that through their sacrifice future generations can live in greater peace, prosperity and hope.

Let me also express my gratitude to President Bush. Through the troubled times since September the 11th changed our world, we have been allies and friends. Thank you, Mr President, for your leadership.

Mr Speaker, sir, my thrill on receiving this award was only a little diminished on being told that the first Congressional Gold Medal was awarded to George Washington for what Congress called his 'wise and spirited conduct' in getting rid of the British out of Boston. On our way down here, Senator Frist was kind enough to show me the fireplace where, in 1814, the British had burnt the Congress Library. I know this is kind of late, but sorry.

Actually, you know, my middle son was studying 18th century history and the American War of Independence, and he said to me the other day, 'You know Lord North Dad? He was the British prime minister who lost us America. So just think, however many mistakes you'll make, you'll never make one that bad.'

Members of Congress, I feel a most urgent sense of mission about today's world. September the 11th was not an isolated event, but a tragic prologue, Iraq another act, and many further struggles will be set upon this stage before it's over.

There never has been a time when the power of America was so necessary or so misunderstood, or when, except in the most general sense, a study of history provides so little instruction for our present day.

We were all reared on battles between great warriors, between great nations, between powerful forces and ideologies that dominated entire continents. And these were struggles for conquest, for land, or money, and the wars were fought by massed armies. And the leaders were openly acknowledged, the outcomes decisive.

Today, none of us expect our soldiers to fight a war on our own territory. The immediate threat is not conflict between the world's most powerful nations. And why? Because we all have too much to lose. Because technology, communication, trade and travel are bringing us ever closer together. Because in the last 50 years, countries like yours and mine have tripled their growth and standard of living. Because even those powers like Russia or China or India can see the horizon, the future wealth, clearly and know they are on a steady road toward it. And because all nations that are free value that freedom, will defend it absolutely, but have no wish to trample on the freedom of others.

We are bound together as never before. And this coming together provides us with unprecedented opportunity but also makes us uniquely vulnerable. And the threat comes because in another part of our globe there is shadow and darkness, where not all the world is free, where many millions suffer under brutal dictatorship, where a third of our planet lives in a poverty beyond anything even the poorest in our societies can imagine, and where a fanatical strain of religious extremism has arisen, that is a mutation of the true and peaceful faith of Islam.

And because in the combination of these afflictions a new and deadly virus has emerged. The virus is terrorism whose intent to inflict destruction is unconstrained by human feeling and whose capacity to inflict it is enlarged by technology.

This is a battle that can't be fought or won only by armies. We are so much more powerful in all conventional ways than the terrorists, yet even in all our might, we are taught humility. In the end, it is not our power alone that will defeat this evil. Our ultimate weapon is not our guns, but our beliefs.

There is a myth that though we love freedom, others don't; that our attachment to freedom is a product of our culture; that freedom, democracy, human rights, the rule of law are American values, or Western values; that Afghan women were content under the lash of the Taliban; that Saddam was somehow beloved by his people; that Milosevic was Serbia's savior.

Members of Congress, ours are not Western values, they are the universal values of the human spirit. And anywhere, any time ordinary people are given the chance to choose, the choice is the same: freedom, not tyranny; democracy, not dictatorship; the rule of law, not the rule of the secret police.

The spread of freedom is the best security for the free. It is our last line of defense and our first line of attack. And just as the terrorist seeks to divide humanity in hate, so we have to unify it around an idea. And that idea is liberty. We must find the strength to fight for this idea and the compassion to make it universal. Abraham Lincoln said, 'Those that deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.' And it is this sense of justice that makes moral the love of liberty.

"In some cases where our security is under direct threat, we will have recourse to arms. In others, it will be by force of reason. But in all cases, to the same end: that the liberty we seek is not for some but for all, for that is the only true path to victory in this struggle. But first we must explain the danger.

Our new world rests on order. The danger is disorder. And in today's world, it can now spread like contagion. The terrorists and the states that support them don't have large armies or precision weapons; they don't need them. Their weapon is chaos.

The purpose of terrorism is not the single act of wanton destruction. It is the reaction it seeks to provoke: economic collapse, the backlash, the hatred, the division, the elimination of tolerance, until societies cease to reconcile their differences and become defined by them. Kashmir, the Middle East, Chechnya, Indonesia, Africa - barely a continent or nation is unscathed.

The risk is that terrorism and states developing weapons of mass destruction come together. And when people say, 'That risk is fanciful,' I say we know the Taliban supported al-Qaeda. We know Iraq under Saddam gave haven to and supported terrorists. We know there are states in the Middle East now actively funding and helping people, who regard it as God's will in the act of suicide to take as many innocent lives with them on their way to God's judgment.

Some of these states are desperately trying to acquire nuclear weapons. We know that companies and individuals with expertise sell it to the highest bidder, and we know that at least one state, North Korea, lets its people starve while spending billions of dollars on developing nuclear weapons and exporting the technology abroad.

This isn't fantasy, it is 21st-century reality, and it confronts us now. Can we be sure that terrorism and weapons of mass destruction will join together? Let us say one thing: If we are wrong, we will have destroyed a threat that at its least is responsible for inhuman carnage and suffering. That is something I am confident history will forgive.

But if our critics are wrong, if we are right, as I believe with every fiber of instinct and conviction I have that we are, and we do not act, then we will have hesitated in the face of this menace when we should have given leadership. That is something history will not forgive.

But precisely because the threat is new, it isn't obvious. It turns upside-down our concepts of how we should act and when, and it crosses the frontiers of many nations. So just as it redefines our notions of security, so it must refine our notions of diplomacy.

There is no more dangerous theory in international politics than that we need to balance the power of America with other competitive powers; different poles around which nations gather.

Such a theory may have made sense in 19th-century Europe. It was perforce the position in the Cold War. Today, it is an anachronism to be discarded like traditional theories of security. And it is dangerous because it is not rivalry but partnership we need; a common will and a shared purpose in the face of a common threat.

And I believe any alliance must start with America and Europe. If Europe and America are together, the others will work with us. If we split, the rest will play around, play us off and nothing but mischief will be the result of it.

You may think after recent disagreements it can't be done, but the debate in Europe is open. Iraq showed that when, never forget, many European nations supported our action.

And it shows it still when those that didn't agreed Resolution 1483 in the United Nations for Iraq's reconstruction. Today, German soldiers lead in Afghanistan, French soldiers lead in the Congo where they stand between peace and a return to genocide.

So we should not minimize the differences, but we should not let them confound us either. You know, people ask me after the past months when, let's say, things were a trifle strained in Europe, 'Why do you persist in wanting Britain at the center of Europe?' And I say, 'Well, maybe if the UK were a group of islands 20 miles off Manhattan, I might feel differently. But actually, we're 20 miles off Calais and joined by a tunnel.'

We are part of Europe, and we want to be. But we also want to be part of changing Europe. Europe has one potential for weakness. For reasons that are obvious, we spent roughly a thousand years killing each other in large numbers.

The political culture of Europe is inevitably rightly based on compromise. Compromise is a fine thing except when based on an illusion. And I don't believe you can compromise with this new form of terrorism.

But Europe has a strength. It is a formidable political achievement. Think of the past and think of the unity today. Think of it preparing to reach out even to Turkey - a nation of vastly different culture, tradition, religion - and welcome it in. But my real point is this: now Europe is at the point of transformation. Next year, 10 new countries will join. Romania and Bulgaria will follow. Why will these new European members transform Europe? Because their scars are recent, their memories strong, their relationship with freedom still one of passion, not comfortable familiarity.

They believe in the trans-Atlantic alliance. They support economic reform. They want a Europe of nations, not a super state. They are our allies and they are yours. So don't give up on Europe. Work with it.

To be a serious partner, Europe must take on and defeat the anti-Americanism that sometimes passes for its political discourse. And what America must do is show that this is a partnership built on persuasion, not command. Then the other great nations of our world and the small will gather around in one place, not many. And our understanding of this threat will become theirs. And the United Nations can then become what it should be: an instrument of action as well as debate.

The Security Council should be reformed. We need a new international regime on the nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction. And we need to say clearly to United Nations members: 'If you engage in the systematic and gross abuse of human rights in defiance of the UN charter, you cannot expect to enjoy the same privileges as those that conform to it.'

I agree. It is not the coalition that determines the mission, but the mission the coalition. But let us start preferring a coalition and acting alone if we have to, not the other way around. True, winning wars is not easier that way, but winning the peace is.

And we have to win both. And you have an extraordinary record of doing so. Who helped Japan renew, or Germany reconstruct, or Europe get back on its feet after World War Two? America. So when we invade Afghanistan or Iraq, our responsibility does not end with military victory. Finishing the fighting is not finishing the job.

So if Afghanistan needs more troops from the international community to police outside Kabul, our duty is to get them. Let us help them eradicate their dependency on the poppy, the crop whose wicked residue turns up on the streets of Britain as heroin to destroy young British lives, as much as their harvest warps the lives of Afghans.

We promised Iraq democratic government. We will deliver it. We promised them the chance to use their oil wealth to build prosperity for all their citizens, not a corrupt elite, and we will do so. We will stay with these people so in need of our help until the job is done.

And then reflect on this: how hollow would the charges of American imperialism be when these failed countries are and are seen to be transformed from states of terror to nations of prosperity, from governments of dictatorship to examples of democracy, from sources of instability to beacons of calm.

And how risible would be the claims that these were wars on Muslims if the world could see these Muslim nations still Muslim, but with some hope for the future, not shackled by brutal regimes whose principal victims were the very Muslims they pretended to protect?

It would be the most richly observed advertisement for the values of freedom we can imagine. When we removed the Taliban and Saddam Hussein, this was not imperialism. For these oppressed people, it was their liberation. And why can the terrorists even mount an argument in the Muslim world that it isn't? Because there is one cause terrorism rides upon, a cause they have no belief in but can manipulate.

I want to be very plain: this terrorism will not be defeated without peace in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine. Here it is that the poison is incubated. Here it is that the extremist is able to confuse in the mind of a frighteningly large number of people the case for a Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel, and to translate this moreover into a battle between East and West, Muslim, Jew and Christian.

May this never compromise the security of the state of Israel. The state of Israel should be recognized by the entire Arab world, and the vile propaganda used to indoctrinate children, not just against Israel but against Jews, must cease.

You cannot teach people hate and then ask them to practice peace. But neither can you teach people peace except by according them dignity and granting them hope. Innocent Israelis suffer. So do innocent Palestinians.

The ending of Saddam's regime in Iraq must be the starting point of a new dispensation for the Middle East: Iraq, free and stable; Iran and Syria, who give succor to the rejectionist men of violence, made to realize that the world will no longer countenance it, that the hand of friendship can only be offered them if they resile completely from this malice, but that if they do, that hand will be there for them and their people; the whole of region helped toward democracy. And to symbolize it all, the creation of an independent, viable and democratic Palestinian state side by side with the state of Israel.

What the president is doing in the Middle East is tough but right. And let me at this point thank the president for his support, and that of President Clinton before him, and the support of members of this Congress, for our attempts to bring peace to Northern Ireland.

You know, one thing I've learned about peace processes: they're always frustrating, they're often agonizing, and occasionally they seem hopeless. But for all that, having a peace process is better than not having one.

And why has a resolution of Palestine such a powerful appeal across the world? Because it embodies an even-handed approach to justice, just as when this president recommended and this Congress supported a $15 billion increase in spending on the world's poorest nations to combat HIV/AIDS. It was a statement of concern that echoed rightly around the world.

There can be no freedom for Africa without justice and no justice without declaring war on Africa's poverty, disease and famine with as much vehemence as we removed the tyrant and the terrorists.

In Mexico in September, the world should unite and give us a trade round that opens up our markets. I'm for free trade, and I'll tell you why: because we can't say to the poorest people in the world, 'We want you to be free, but just don't try to sell your goods in our market.'

And because ever since the world started to open up, it has prospered. And that prosperity has to be environmentally sustainable, too. You know, I remember at one of our earliest international meetings, a European prime minister telling President Bush that the solution was quite simple: just double the tax on American gasoline. Your president gave him a most eloquent look.

It reminded me of the first leader of my party, Keir Hardie, in the early part of the 20th century. He was a man who used to correspond with the Pankhursts, the great campaigners for women's votes. And shortly before the election, June 1913, one of the Pankhurst sisters wrote to Hardie saying she had been studying Britain carefully and there was a worrying rise in sexual immorality linked to heavy drinking. So she suggested he fight the election on the platform of votes for women, chastity for men and prohibition for all.

He replied saying, 'Thank you for your advice, yhe electoral benefits of which are not immediately discernible.' We all get that kind of advice, don't we?

But frankly, we need to go beyond even Kyoto, and science and technology is the way. Climate change, deforestation, the voracious drain on natural resources cannot be ignored. Unchecked, these forces will hinder the economic development of the most vulnerable nations first and ultimately all nations. So we must show the world that we are willing to step up to these challenges around the world and in our own backyards.

Members of Congress, if this seems a long way from the threat of terror and weapons of mass destruction, it is only to say again that the world security cannot be protected without the world's heart being one. So America must listen as well as lead. But, members of Congress, don't ever apologize for your values.

Tell the world why you're proud of America. Tell them when the Star-Spangled Banner starts, Americans get to their feet, Hispanics, Irish, Italians, Central Europeans, East Europeans, Jews, Muslims, white, Asian, black, those who go back to the early settlers and those whose English is the same as some New York cab drivers I've dealt with, but whose sons and daughters could run for this Congress.

Tell them why Americans, one and all, stand upright and respectful. Not because some state official told them to, but because whatever race, color, class or creed they are, being American means being free. That's why they're proud.

As Britain knows, all predominant power seems for a time invincible, but, in fact, it is transient. The question is: What do you leave behind? And what you can bequeath to this anxious world is the light of liberty.

That is what this struggle against terrorist groups or states is about. We're not fighting for domination. We're not fighting for an American world, though we want a world in which America is at ease. We're not fighting for Christianity, but against religious fanaticism of all kinds.

And this is not a war of civilizations, because each civilization has a unique capacity to enrich the stock of human heritage. We are fighting for the inalienable right of humankind - black or white, Christian or not, left, right or a million different - to be free, free to raise a family in love and hope, free to earn a living and be rewarded by your efforts, free not to bend your knee to any man in fear, free to be you so long as being you does not impair the freedom of others. That's what we're fighting for. And it's a battle worth fighting.

And I know it's hard on America, and in some small corner of this vast country, out in Nevada or Idaho or these places I've never been to, but always wanted to go. I know out there there's a guy getting on with his life, perfectly happily, minding his own business, saying to you, the political leaders of this country, 'Why me? And why us? And why America?'

And the only answer is, 'Because destiny put you in this place in history, in this moment in time, and the task is yours to do.'

And our job, my nation that watched you grow, that you fought alongside and now fights alongside you, that takes enormous pride in our alliance and great affection in our common bond, our job is to be there with you. You are not going to be alone. We will be with you in this fight for liberty. We will be with you in this fight for liberty. And if our spirit is right and our courage firm, the world will be with us.

Thank you."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: angloamerican; blair; blairvisit; jointsession; tonyblair; transcript; transcripts
Count the bombshells.
1 posted on 07/17/2003 11:41:18 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: All
How about the new highway named for Clinton in his home stste of Arkansas? It's a little crooked, and has a long yellow streak down the center. Be careful if you drive on it, it's a little slick.

Manufacturers announced today that they will be stocking America's shelves this week with "Clinton Soup, to honor one of the nation's most distingushed men". It consists primariy of a weenie in hot water.

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2 posted on 07/17/2003 11:43:53 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: thoughtomator
These are the kinds of thoughts, I love reading or hearing. There are not enough positive attitudes around these days. It's time President Bush stand up and tell everyone they don't know what they're talking about, let's finish the job, support the soldiers around the globe and take America out of the gutter that some politicians keep trying to pull us into.

We're always walking on top of the fence, teetering one way or another. Why do some Americans find it necessary to help our enemies push us the wrong way? It's a matter of values and ethics. Without either, you have no character, without character you are mentally and morally bankrupt.

Time for some frank talk from "W", and put all of the whining in perspective from those clamboring for attention in vane attempts at getting nominated for President.

3 posted on 07/18/2003 12:50:08 AM PDT by Tactical
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To: thoughtomator; SJackson; yonif
Here's my report card for Tony Blair's speech. He gets a B+ for effort and enthusiasm, but doesn't quite make an A grade because of the uncertainty he faces at home, and a few distractions from the message. Also, he fails to address the issue of President Bush's state of the union speech. He could have taken this opportunity to explain that it is no issue, and that the press is all wrong. But that would have meant admitting that we are sharply divided as a people, from one end of the Anglosphere to the other, and politicians are loath to do such things. However, Mr. Blair's strong reaffirmation of Anglo military unity was solid and just in time.

I was roused by his comments on Americans and freedom, much as was Congress: this was the one that received the loudest cheers.

Tell them why Americans, one and all, stand upright and respectful. Not because some state official told them to, but because whatever race, color, class or creed they are, being American means being free. That's why they're proud.
Also good: he made it clear that the War on Terror is alive and well. And even better, he declared the Clintonian multipolarity concept of cutting America down the size and evening it out with the rest of the world powers dead, even dead as long ago as the 19th century. Blair's comments about America's destiny to lead were honest and forthright. I hope many other Brits are happy to admit it, and I believe we can share this leadership with them and any other modern nation that steps forward to join us. Japan and Australia come to mind. So do Poland and Czechlosovockia.

While Blair identified the indoctrination of Arab children as a prime source of terrorism, he falters (much as does President Bush) by leaving the Palestinian issue in with the ones the west has to solve before terrorism will go away. I believe the Palestinian issue was invented by Arafat, the Wahabis, and the Nazis, and I would prefer that our leaders admit this as well. Furthermore, I do not see poverty as a terror trigger. Poverty has many causes, but in the Muslim third world, one of them is fundamentalism. If it's the other way around as well, there isn't much we can do about it.

Furthermore, I question Blair's assertion that our battles in Iraq and on terrorism were not part of a war of civilizations. I think they are, and the sooner we admit it, the better off we'll be. Churchill would have come right out and said it.

Finally, Blair trundles out the generic concept of "peace process" with apologetic reluctance. Of course he is speaking about Kashmir and Palestine. He also refers to Northern Ireland for some reason, although I fail to see the commonality other than the fact that British troops are well-trained for bomb searches. I've already decided that the peace process in Israel is about forcing the Jews to give more and more concessions while Europe and America ignore the Palestinian march to push Israel into the sea. The hell with the peace process. We must remember what the bible often says about smiting the enemies of the Jewish people. For example, in first Chrinicles chapter 14 verse 15 we read:

And it shall be, when thou shalt hear a sound of going in the tops of the mulberry trees, that then thou shalt go out to battle: for God is gone forth before thee to smite the host of the Philistines.
Let's got to it. Peace will come when the enemies of the west have no more strength to fight.
4 posted on 07/18/2003 2:52:39 AM PDT by risk (...for God is gone forth before thee to smite the host of the Philistines.)
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To: thoughtomator
Thank you for posting this.
Bump and bookmark.
5 posted on 07/18/2003 7:17:48 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; adam_az; LarryM; American in Israel; ReligionofMassDestruction; ...
The political culture of Europe is inevitably rightly based on compromise. Compromise is a fine thing except when based on an illusion. And I don't believe you can compromise with this new form of terrorism.

Really? You will never compromise with terrorism? Then why do you support creating a terrorist state?

I want to be very plain: this terrorism will not be defeated without peace in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine.

So giving the terrorist regime of the PA a state will defeat terrorism? Yeah right. What's more, notice that he uses the term "Palestine" as if it already exists.

And why has a resolution of Palestine such a powerful appeal across the world? Because it embodies an even-handed approach to justice

Ha ha ha. Anyone have that picture of a "Palestinian" collaborater hanging in front of the potrait of Arafat?

May this never compromise the security of the state of Israel.

It already has.

6 posted on 07/18/2003 8:11:38 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
Then why do you support creating a terrorist state?

Does he? I don't believe he'd say he does, now you could call him naive for thinking a peaceful palestinian can be set up with the current people in charge. But I doubt he'd want to see a terrorist state set-up.

What the palestinians have to understand is they have two choices
1 make peace (and I mean real peace as in yes Israel you have the right to exist)
2DIE.
Unfortunaly I don't believe they (the palestinians) have really grasped this. The "leadership" don't want to tell thier people, because they're making a nice living and are able to maintain power as long as this war goes on.
Not too mention the fact that it's a lot easier and fun to be a revolutionary than it is to actually run a country

However I give you a small ray of hope
Palestinians Protest, Blame Militants
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914728/posts
7 posted on 07/18/2003 9:04:13 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: thoughtomator
Bump
8 posted on 07/18/2003 9:38:23 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: Valin
Bush and Blair both trust the PA and have given it power and money. What's more, they pressue Israel to conceed to this terror.
9 posted on 07/18/2003 9:50:53 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
I'm not sure just how much they trust the PA. What they are trying to do is find a peaceful end to this war. Personally I have my doubts that there is one. At least with the PA as it is currently configured. I'll believe it when I see the PA actually do something about the terrorist groups in thier areas.
I do give them some credit for trying...but at some point(Soon I hope) they will have to realize that the problem of peace is on the PA side.

(Aside) could you let me know when youe radio show goes back online?
10 posted on 07/18/2003 10:04:28 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: thoughtomator
I watched the speech on C-Span last night, as well as the Press Conference with The President. I think Tony Blair is eloquent without being sanctimonious in both his prepared remarks as well as in a Q & A situation. The quality of that eloquence is a product of the sincerity he is attempting to express, IMO.

The speech was an enjoyable experience to view, marred only by the disgusting and disturbing behavior of some Democrats: The Clinton smirk, the Waters sourpuss, and more than one napping "elected official" I failed to recognize (like these guys work so hard they're falling asleep at the switch). Overall, it seemed the Demwits were working overtime to not be overly-enthused about anything Blair was saying. And what's up with Levine, affecting the Ben Franklin readers-on-the-tip-of-the-nose "c'mon, whoya tryin to kid?" look? I thought I saw Trent dozing too, but I think he was writing something. I don't recall seeing Bob Graham there either, maybe he was out working on his impeachment case..

What a crew...

11 posted on 07/18/2003 10:08:14 AM PDT by onehipdad
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Someone should tell them to study this speech. This is how a liberal talks about serious subjects. Note the LACK of whineing, victomolgy, class-warfare.
12 posted on 07/18/2003 10:13:45 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: Valin
One cannot find a "peaceful" end to the war by cuddling and strengthening the terrorist enemy they refuse to see as such (Arafat-Abbas PLO/PA)

They do not intend on cracking down on terrorism as they are part of it. They are the same people that were around during Oslo's failure 1993-2000.

We legitimize them, allow their offices to remain open in DC, give them money (just last week 20M in DIRECT aid to the PA), shake hands with them, invite them to the white house, etc.

I am disgusted when I see American and Israeli leaders for that matter shake hands with a holocaust denier.

My radio show will most likely restart in Sept. I will post the times and also everyweek a thread announcing what the topics will be etc. Hope you listen in.

13 posted on 07/18/2003 10:14:03 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
I am disgutsed as well yonif.
I thought at first, ok give it a chance see maybe there are things I do not know about. But alas I was wrong to even think we as a country(government) would take the same stand on terrorists as in the speeches during Oct. 2002 and now. It seems the attitude is sickenly different when it comes to those that commit crimes and terrorize Israel. SHAME is what I feel and digust and anger. America and Israel should stand firm against ALL terrorists and not give them anything, not give in to them on any terms. never !

Wild Thing

14 posted on 07/18/2003 11:15:05 AM PDT by Wild Thing (Support our Troops and the IDF or get out of the way ! The Troops ROCK !!!!)
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To: thoughtomator
Thank you for this post.
I was able to download the speech from the PM's web site, but it was devoid of the extemporaneous portions ---- the funniest.
15 posted on 07/18/2003 11:23:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: yonif
...that is a mutation of the true and peaceful faith of Islam BARF!!!

Hey Tony, you're welcome to every muslim we have here. Why don't you set them up at the Finsbury Terror Epicenter mosque?

16 posted on 07/18/2003 4:50:43 PM PDT by Binyamin
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