To: 1stFreedom
(ELCA) I can tell you that Luther is turning over in his grave right now I hear you, and fully agree with this point. ELCA is no longer Lutheran, since it's in communion with C of E and others. Regarding whether Rome has one set of doctrines or many, I partially concede this point since, yes, I am sure many of the Roman doctrines are espoused only by dissenters. At least Rome has written confessions, which the non-denoms and hyper-liberalized protestants do not. Unfortunately, since around Luther's (and his martyred predecessors') time, Rome has hardened in its error, codified it (Council of Trent), and added to it (infallability, Assumption, Immaculate Conception, co-redemptrix [soon?] and so on). If that were not enough, since the 1960s it appears Rome is well on the way to codifying new age / eastern extensions into its doctrine too. The way it's going, ANYBODY is going to be acceptable to Rome EXCEPT those to say that man is saved by faith alone in Christ alone, as taught by the Scriptures alone.
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07/10/2003 8:58:42 PM PDT by
old-ager
To: old-ager
>>has hardened in its error,
You presume that it was in error in the first place. Abuse of theology does not mean the root theology was in error.
>>to say that man is saved by faith alone in Christ alone, as taught by the Scriptures alone
I see you exhibit a classic Lutheran error. Now where in scripture does it say we are saved by faith alone. Luther added the word "alone" to his version of scripture. This word "alone" no longer appears in protestant scriptures but is taught as if it is part of the verse.
Also, the works that are rejected in Scripture are not Christian works -- they are works of the law (Jewish Law). Most people, including Luther, though it meant all works, including works of Charirty. THe last judgement clearly contradicts salvation by faith "alone".
To: old-ager
>> Immaculate Conception
I believe that Luther believed in the immculate conception.
To: old-ager
To: old-ager
The Council of Trent added NOTHING new to its teachings. There are plenty of references in the writings of the early Christians espousing belief in infallibility, Immaculate Conception, Assumption, etc. The Church has added nothing new since the death of the last Apostle. And-- there are too many places in Scripture that speak of the necessity of salvation by good works.
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