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Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

Posted on 07/09/2003 12:08:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

FORT WORTH, Texas - (KRT) -
The long-running debate over the origins of mankind continues Wednesday before the Texas State Board of Education, and the result could change the way science is taught here and across the nation.

Local and out-of-state lobbying groups will try to convince the board that the next generation of biology books should contain new scientific evidence that reportedly pokes holes in Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

Many of those groups say that they are not pushing to place a divine creator back into science books, but to show that Darwin's theory is far from a perfect explanation of the origin of mankind.

"It has become a battle ground," said Eugenie Scott, executive director of theNational Center of Science Education, which is dedicated to defending the teaching of evolution in the classroom.

Almost 45 scientists, educators and special interest groups from across the state will testify at the state's first public hearing this year on the next generation of textbooks for the courses of biology, family and career studies and English as a Second Language.

Approved textbooks will be available for classrooms for the 2004-05 school year. And because Texas is the second largest textbook buyer in the nation, the outcome could affect education nationwide.

The Texas Freedom Network and a handful of educators held a conference call last week to warn that conservative Christians and special interest organizations will try to twist textbook content to further their own views.

"We are seeing the wave of the future of religious right's attack on basic scientific principles," said Samantha Smoot, executive director of the network, an anti-censorship group and opponent of the radical right.

Those named by the network disagree with the claim, including the Discovery Institute and its Science and Culture Center of Seattle.

"Instead of wasting time looking at motivations, we wish people would look at the facts," said John West, associate director of the center.

"Our goal nationally is to encourage schools and educators to include more about evolution, including controversies about various parts of Darwinian theory that exists between even evolutionary scientists," West said. "We are a secular think tank."

The institute also is perhaps the nation's leading proponent of intelligent design - the idea that life is too complex to have occurred without the help of an unknown, intelligent being.

It pushed this view through grants to teachers and scientists, including Michael J. Behe, professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. The Institute receives millions of dollars from philanthropists and foundations dedicated to discrediting Darwin's theory.

The center sent the state board a 55-page report that graded 11 high school biology textbooks submitted for adoption. None earned a grade above a C minus. The report also includes four arguments it says show that evolutionary theory is not as solid as presented in biology textbooks.

Discovery Institute Fellow Raymond Bohlin, who also is executive director of Probe Ministries, based in Richardson, Texas, will deliver that message in person Wednesday before the State Board of Education. Bohlin has a doctorate degree in molecular cell biology from the University of Texas at Dallas.

"If we can simply allow students to see that evolution is not an established fact, that leaves freedom for students to pursue other ideas," Bohlin said. "All I can do is continue to point these things out and hopefully get a group that hears and sees relevant data and insist on some changes."

The executive director of Texas Citizens for Science, Steven Schafersman, calls the institute's information "pseudoscience nonsense." Schafersman is an evolutionary scientist who, for more than two decades, taught biology, geology, paleontology and environmental science at a number of universities, including the University of Houston and the University of Texas of the Permian Basin.

"It sounds plausible to people who are not scientifically informed," Schafersman said. "But they are fraudulently trying to deceive board members. They might succeed, but it will be over the public protests of scientists."

The last time Texas looked at biology books, in 1997, the State Board of Education considered replacing them all with new ones that did not mention evolution. The board voted down the proposal by a slim margin.

The state requires that evolution be in textbooks. But arguments against evolution have been successful over the last decade in other states. Alabama, New Mexico and Nebraska made changes that, to varying degrees, challenge the pre-eminence of evolution in the scientific curriculum.

In 1999, the Kansas Board of Education voted to wash the concepts of evolution from the state's science curricula. A new state board has since put evolution back in. Last year, the Cobb County school board in Georgia voted to include creationism in science classes.

Texas education requirements demand that textbooks include arguments for and against evolution, said Neal Frey, an analyst working with perhaps Texas' most famous textbook reviewers, Mel and Norma Gabler.

The Gablers, of Longview, have been reviewing Texas textbooks for almost four decades. They describe themselves as conservative Christians. Some of their priorities include making sure textbooks include scientific flaws in arguments for evolution.

"None of the texts truly conform to the state's requirements that the strengths and weaknesses of scientific theories be presented to students," Frey said.

The Texas textbook proclamation of 2001, which is part of the standard for the state's curriculum, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills, requires that biology textbooks instruct students so they may "analyze, review and critique scientific explanations, including hypotheses and theories, as to their strengths and weakness using scientific evidence and information."

The state board is empowered to reject books only for factual errors or for not meeting the state's curriculum requirements. If speakers convince the state board that their evidence is scientifically sound, members may see little choice but to demand its presence in schoolbooks.

Proposed books already have been reviewed and approved by Texas Tech University. After a public hearing Wednesday and another Sept. 10, the state board is scheduled to adopt the new textbooks in November.

Satisfying the state board is only half the battle for textbook publishers. Individual school districts choose which books to use and are reimbursed by the state unless they buy texts rejected by the state board.

Districts can opt not to use books with passages they find objectionable. So when speakers at the public hearings criticize what they perceived as flaws in various books - such as failing to portray the United States or Christianity in a positive light - many publishers listen.

New books will be distributed next summer.

State Board member Terri Leo said the Discovery Institute works with esteemed scientists and that their evidence should be heard.

"You cannot teach students how to think if you don't present both sides of a scientific issue," Leo said. "Wouldn't you think that the body that has the responsibility of what's in the classroom would look at all scientific arguments?"

State board member Bob Craig said he had heard of the Intelligent Design theory.

"I'm going in with an open mind about everybody's presentation," Craig said. "I need to hear their presentation before I make any decisions or comments.

State board member Mary Helen Berlanga said she wanted to hear from local scientists.

"If we are going to discuss scientific information in the textbooks, the discussion will have to remain scientific," Berlanga said. "I'd like to hear from some of our scientists in the field on the subject."


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To: goodseedhomeschool
then how come we find modern fossils under the so called "older ones".


Sorry goodseed, don't mean to be a spoilsport, but it AIN'T happened.

If you would be so kind as to provide a source for such information, I would appreciate it.

If a younger fossil were found UNDER an older fossil in the same location and strata, it would disprove evolution in a heartbeat, scientists would be having fits trying to figure out how it got there, and it would be ALL over the news, NOT just the fundamentalist sites.

Give me a RELIABLE UNBIASED source for such a claim and I will take a look at it.
1,341 posted on 07/11/2003 1:17:10 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: js1138
Thank you so much for your post!

The math supporting the "6 day v 15 billion year" reconciliation is contained in the linked Schroeder article. It is a standard computation but of course, is seldom viewed with regard to the Torah - which doesn't surprise me because I wouldn't expect most scientists to compare notes with Scriptures.

Nor do I see anything in the Bible to suggest a dual perspective.

I submit the following passage wherein Jesus explains that God is the speaker of Scripture, that we ought to discern the meaning of what is in the Scripture, and that God is not positioned at our space/time coordinates - on our timeline which leads to death (emphasis mine):

Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. - Matthew 22:29-32

If you'd like more Scriptural references, please let me know.

1,342 posted on 07/11/2003 1:21:46 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Skywalk
We could go on and on, or about Horus resurrecting his father Osiris, or Krishna raising someone from the dead, or Odin hanging himself from the Yggdrasil and gaining knowledge as a result(a form of resurrection) or Ishtar and Tammuz...

I hope there is an understanding here among those who think that questioning volution will bring about a win for a certain demonination of Christianity -- this is what you have to look forward to. Now if conservatives could work together for school choice...

1,343 posted on 07/11/2003 1:26:09 PM PDT by js1138
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Maceplarker
1,344 posted on 07/11/2003 1:26:17 PM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: Alamo-Girl
Evolution is an urban legend popular among the unscientific who don't know a theory from fact !

Real science is coming ... designeduniverse.com --- evolution is a fraud pepetuated by the ignorant !

Just reading the Bible the founding fathers plainly knew this beast would arrive and cover - tyrannize the nation but we would have to deal with it ... so we are -- will !

designeduniverse.com ... the obituary of evolution penned by freepers ...

yours truly !


1,345 posted on 07/11/2003 1:26:25 PM PDT by f.Christian (( bring it on ... crybabies // bullies - wimps - camp guards for darwin - marx - satan ))
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To: Aric2000
If a younger fossil were found UNDER an older fossil in the same location and strata...

No fair. You are ignoring folded strata.

1,346 posted on 07/11/2003 1:28:10 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Alamo-Girl
I don't doubt you can privide them, but you are preaching to the choir here. I may not share your exact perspective on things, but I am not the one who asserts science is incompatible with religion.
1,347 posted on 07/11/2003 1:30:44 PM PDT by js1138
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To: f.Christian
Thank you so much for your support of ALS' new website! I'm privileged to be a contributor there. Hugs!!!
1,348 posted on 07/11/2003 1:31:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: js1138
That's explainable, folded strata is a geologically obvious and ANY geologist worth his or her salt will point it out, but if you have a strata, call it a straight strata, the older ones lie under the newer ones just as they are supposed to, and all of a sudden what should be a young fossil shows up UNDER what is supposed to be an older fossil, then evolution is in trouble.

I see this claim made by fundamentalists a LOT, but I have yet see ANY proof of this assertion at all.
1,349 posted on 07/11/2003 1:32:07 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Alamo-Girl
the site seems to be down at the moment. the links aren't working.
1,350 posted on 07/11/2003 1:38:18 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Aric2000
I see this claim made by fundamentalists a LOT, but I have yet see ANY proof of this assertion at all.

Or any evidence either.

1,351 posted on 07/11/2003 1:39:28 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Oh please, gimme a brake. You don't really think that, do you?
I as well as others like VadeRetro, PatrickHenry and whattajoke have alreay pointed out to you why a written debate is better than an oral one.
In an oral debate you have very little time to prepare a thorough answer to every point that is raised by your opponent and you can't go to your bookshelve or computer to look someting up if needed. Also, you can come up with several claims in no time at all but it needs a lot more time if you want to address each one of them in an adequate manner and not only scratch the surface.
And here is the problem: you have only a short time for your answers and so you cannot go into great detail. In most cases however, a short answer won't do but if you try to give a more detailed response you're going to bore the audience that isn't interested in minutiae.

So I hope you see that a stage is not a place where the validity of such important scentific issues is determined.

1,352 posted on 07/11/2003 1:39:36 PM PDT by BMCDA
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To: f.Christian
OK, I got to designeduniverse.com and found this:

In contrast, the Duke study generated 97 percent to 100 percent bootstrap support in its nuclear gene comparisons of animals representing all three mammalian groups. Mammals they studied included the platypus, echidna, opossum, wallaby, hedgehog, mouse, rat, rabbit, cow, pig, bat, tree shrew, colugo, ringtail lemur and humans.

"This is the first molecular evolutionary study that seriously and powerfully says the paleontologists have been right all along in grouping mammals the way they did," said Killian. "It turns out that common sense is correct."

Interesting...

1,353 posted on 07/11/2003 1:42:44 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
Thank you so much for your post! I am not asserting that science is incompatible with religion either.

I do believe that metaphysical naturalists (atheists) should have no control over science for the same reason the Church should have no control over science.

Likewise, metaphysical naturalists should have no say in the theories and meaning gathered from "doing" science as published in peer-reviewed journals.

Beyond the journals, all ideologies and religions (including atheism) can and will gather meaning from the science based on their own beliefs.

My two cents...

1,354 posted on 07/11/2003 1:42:45 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: longshadow
"A relatively free of Squirming, Wildly-Elliptical Trolls" placemarker
1,355 posted on 07/11/2003 1:43:12 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: Aric2000
Wht are cambrian plates ON mountains and in the pre cambrian LOWER layers there are no fossils ... oj gloves slipping off too easy ?

Are placemakers the same as dogs pissing on fireplugs !

Evo cou ? --- couties !
1,356 posted on 07/11/2003 1:47:01 PM PDT by f.Christian (( bring it on ... crybabies // bullies - wimps - camp guards for darwin - marx - satan ))
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To: ThinkPlease
It's a weekend! placemarker
1,357 posted on 07/11/2003 1:47:37 PM PDT by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I like your site. It has a lot of good stuff supporting evolution.
1,358 posted on 07/11/2003 1:47:44 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
LOLOL! I'm glad you are enjoying it.
1,359 posted on 07/11/2003 1:49:17 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: js1138
enchilada ... estra cheese - sauce --- yummy !

I'm into stromboli - calzoni !
1,360 posted on 07/11/2003 1:49:19 PM PDT by f.Christian (( bring it on ... crybabies // bullies - wimps - camp guards for darwin - marx - satan ))
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