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Savages
The Freedom Institute ^ | July 7, 2003 | Adam Yoshida

Posted on 07/05/2003 7:50:42 PM PDT by adamyoshida

Savages

July 5th, like virtually every other day in recent memory, has brought multiple terrorist outrages. In Russia, a pair of Muslim suicide bombers killed at least sixteen people. In Iraq, Islamists set off a bomb which killed seven police recruits. Barely a day on this Earth goes by where some Islamic extremists do not murder at least a few civilians. There is a reason for this: the Islamists have discovered the terror works because the leaders in most of the West are too irresolute to fully comprehend the fact that terror can only be fought with terror.

It is in the long-term interests of the world that a close alliance be forged between the United States and Russia. As the two great powers faced with deepest threats from radical Islam, Russia and America have a common enemy- and they have a common solution to their problems: to wipe out the terrorists. More than that, bringing the Russia closer to the United States will hopefully prevent it from becoming closer to continental Europe, thereby placing extreme pressure from the European Union from the East.

There is only one way to deal with Islamists: to kill them. The goals of Islamists are unlimited and their dedication of total- virtually every freed Islamic terrorist’s first goal upon his release is to plan new acts of terror. Most of them spend their time in prison doing the same. Keeping Muslim terrorists alive is a security threat, in that it does not take them forever off the chessboard of the world and, even worst still, a waste of valuable oxygen. The only permissible reason for allowing an Islamist thug to live should be his willingness and ability to provide information: either voluntarily or involuntarily. Those who are uncooperative should be disposed of the moment they cease to be useful. Those who are helpful ought to be allowed to live, under close surveillance, but they should be eliminated the moment it is seems that they might again pose a threat.

I think that the Russians understand this. Their decade-long experience in Afghanistan has taught them the perils of half-war and of allowing any quarter to Islamists. The main thing preventing them from totally destroying the al-Qaeda backed Chechen bandits is the threat of Western disapproval and the cut-off of Western aid. Although it is true that Russia was singularly unhelpful before and during the war in Iraq, that is not sufficient reason to hang them out to dry in Chechnya and all of the other places were they are fighting Muslim insurgents. The United States should assure Russia that whatever happens in Chechnya (or in Georgia, for that matter) is of no concern to the United States and promise to make up for any loans or aid lost as a result of sanctions on three conditions: that, under no circumstances, will the experience of Iraq will not be repeated, that Russia will immediately cease all aid to Iran and North Korea, and that Russia will make no attempt to formally associate itself with the European Union.

To fight terrorism we need a combination of the Russian and American way of war. In a typically American fashion civilians in war zones should be fed, clothed, sheltered, defended, and not made subject to reprisals for terrorist acts committed by their relatives and friends. However, for those who engage in, support, or advocate terrorism there should be no quarter and no mercy. Membership in groups like al-Qaeda or the Fedayeen should be declared to be an offence punishable by death- and should always be punished in this fashion. These policies must be maintained, despite all pressure to change them. Two faults are at the core of every campaign against insurgents: an undue harshness towards civilians or a lack of vigour against the guerrillas. The civilians must be fed and nourished; the terrorists must be butchered and slaughtered.

This brings me to the second matter I wish to discuss: the coming war over the prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay. The British media will soon fly into a tizzy because two of the terrorists set to be tried there are British citizens. But, fundamentally, that doesn’t matter a whit. A terrorist is a terrorist- regardless of whether he was born in London or Riyadh- they all deserve the same fate.

We must keep this in mind as the long war goes on. This war can end in only one way: the final destruction of Islamism.


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1 posted on 07/05/2003 7:50:42 PM PDT by adamyoshida
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To: adamyoshida
Chechnya is an open sore for Russia still. Maybe it has to be because they have a land connection with that country. Iraq may become an open sore for the US. But it never had to be and we can hardly claim the same national security issues that Russia can in Chechnya. Time to declare victory - call some Iraqi "president" and pull out.
2 posted on 07/05/2003 7:59:19 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: adamyoshida
BUMP!!
3 posted on 07/05/2003 8:02:10 PM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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To: adamyoshida
The kinder,gentler USA isn't working,sadly,and I hope our "leaders" will soon wake up to that fact.

Fight fire with fire!!!!!!
4 posted on 07/05/2003 8:02:54 PM PDT by Mears
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To: adamyoshida
One possible outcome is that Russia, China and the US all come to a gentlemen's agreement not to criticize one another while they take all necessary measures to deal with their respective Muslim problems.
5 posted on 07/05/2003 8:03:22 PM PDT by 7DayRepo
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To: adamyoshida
No argument from me. I'd volunteer to be on the firing squad.
6 posted on 07/05/2003 8:04:39 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: adamyoshida
Very wishful thinking. The Islamists and secular Muslim dictators are mere pawns in the great-power struggle between the US, Russia and China.
7 posted on 07/05/2003 8:06:50 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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To: adamyoshida
"Barely a day on this Earth goes by where some Islamic extremists do not murder at least a few civilians."

This being the case, it makes me wonder why you bother calling them "Islamic extremists" and not just Islamists? "Islamic extremists" indicates they are a small minority, but daily suicide bombings over a protracted period of time indicates otherwise. This so-called 'minority' keeps getting replaced by other extremists when they kill themselves, which means that extremism is at the core of Islam. Islam equals extremism. Isn't it time yet to drop the pc editing and call a spade a spade?

8 posted on 07/05/2003 8:13:57 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: adamyoshida
That is a nice idea...in a nicer world...But are you serious?

You honestly don't know how involved Russia was in arming Iraq? China? Iraq was the false flag. Iraq is not 'the war'. Iraq is the beginning.

9 posted on 07/05/2003 8:14:39 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Filibuster_60
bump!
10 posted on 07/05/2003 8:16:25 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: adamyoshida; Byron_the_Aussie
The Aussie "press" will also fly into a tiz.

Tough.

Get used to it.

[Next?]
11 posted on 07/05/2003 8:17:41 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Calpernia; adamyoshida
<< Iraq is not 'the war'. >>

It was a nice little warmup exercise, though. "The Iraq Phase" has a nice ring to it, wouldn't you say?

And The War continues.

Until Victory.

12 posted on 07/05/2003 8:20:55 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Burkeman1
We will establish airbases in Iraq, from which we can strike anything in the Middle East, and will be there for the next 30 years. This war will likely last for the next several generations.
13 posted on 07/05/2003 8:21:06 PM PDT by RAY
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To: RAY
Perpetual war? And I sadly agree. We will be in Iraq for decades.
14 posted on 07/05/2003 8:22:43 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
Iraq, the cradle of civilization, makes a fine base for and Empire. From the central position the United States now commands the whole middle East.
15 posted on 07/05/2003 8:25:45 PM PDT by adamyoshida
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To: adamyoshida
Empire? Now I know you aren't serious. You trying to plant propaganda seeds?
16 posted on 07/05/2003 8:27:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: adamyoshida
Yes it does sadly. I agree with you. You are happy about it. I am not.
17 posted on 07/05/2003 8:30:26 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: RAY
We never had a problem with air bases - that's what carriers are for. If we went into Iraq merely to establish what we didn't lack beforehand then it wouldn't have been worth it. It's the physical presence on the ground in Iraq that makes us the dominant power in the Mideast for at least the next few years. But it's not something that can or should be maintained much longer than that, at least on the present scale.
18 posted on 07/05/2003 8:30:46 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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To: Brian Allen
Until victory? What is the definition of victory?
19 posted on 07/05/2003 8:31:42 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
Ultimate victory can be declared when the Muslim world stops producing that many terrorists willing to blow themselves up I guess. It'll require not only more regime changes but "people change" as well. It's definitely not something that superior arms alone can achieve. If there's anything that should concern us it's the apparent lack of a coherent, multidimensional strategy to neutralize the threat of Arab/Islamic militancy - one that doesn't jeopardize other vital interests of ours.
20 posted on 07/05/2003 8:37:51 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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