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Potentially Historic Second Amendment Lawsuit Petitioned to Supreme Court (Silveira)
KeepAndBearArms.com ^ | July 3, 2003 | KeepAndBearArms.com

Posted on 07/03/2003 11:26:21 AM PDT by mvpel

Silveira v. Lockyer lawsuit could settle decades of controversy

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE July 3, 2003

CONTACTS: Gary Gorski, Attorney for Plaintiffs Cell: (916) 276-8997 Office: (916) 965-6800 Fax: (916) 965-6801 Angel Shamaya, director, KeepAndBearArms.com Office: (928) 522-8833

A Second Amendment lawsuit was petitioned to the U.S. Supreme Court today -- just in time for Independence Day. The case Silveira v. Lockyer, which originated in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California, was previously appealed to the U. S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, resulting in a deeply divided ruling. The lawsuit seeks to address at least two specific aspects of the Second Amendment, namely: does the Second Amendment apply to the states in the same way that the First, Fourth, and Fifth amendments apply, and does it guarantee an individual right, in the same manner as those other amendments to the Bill of Rights.

The case began when several plaintiffs in California decided to challenge a state gun control law, enacted by the Democrat-controlled legislature of that state, that affected their freedom to own and use certain firearms.

Lead attorney for the lawsuit, Gary W. Gorski, says the law clerks and Justices will note the care, depth, and thoroughness that went into preparing the Petition for Writ of Certiorari. "Hundreds of hours went into this Petition,” says Mr. Gorski. “Centuries of legal scholarship tell us that our Bill of Rights is primarily a document protecting individual rights.” He added, "It's time to put an end to the flawed jurisprudence stemming from blatant disregard for our right to own and use firearms. We believe the Court must finally do the right thing by hearing this vital case."

Gorski says the National Rifle Association is not involved in the lawsuit. He praises another national grassroots organization for great help in preparing the case. "KeepAndBearArms.com's director Angel Shamaya and two key Advisors, David Codrea and Brian Puckett, deserve appreciation for their extensive help in getting us to this point." Gorski also benefited from "amazing constitutional scholarship and knowledge of appellate law" from a "gifted attorney who prefers to remain anonymous."

Gorski filed the Silveira v. Lockyer certiorari petition just before July 4th, as he believes Independence and the Second Amendment are cousins. "Our nation's Founders knew exactly what they were doing when they put the 'gun clause' right next to the 'free speech and religion' clause," says the California-based attorney. "After fighting a bloody war for freedom, of course they meant 'the people' when they penned the Second Amendment. Unfortunately, many politicians today no longer understand the importance of freedom. And millions of innocent Americans face potential prison sentences for merely exercising their constitutional right, and their natural right of self-defense. We think the Justices will review our Petition and realize that this hearing is long overdue."

The last time the Supreme Court ruled on a Second Amendment case was in 1939, in United States. v. Miller.

Gorski believes the high court will announce in early October whether or not it will hear this case. "Until then," he says, "we've have a great deal of work to do to prepare our brief and oral arguments. This is one of the most important things I've ever been involved in -- I'm committed to doing it right, and doing it well."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2a; bang; banglist; bloat; gorski; lockyer; molonlabe; secondamendment; silveira; silveiravlockyer
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To: eno_
"Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress?"

Another Founding Father who could tell the difference between state governments and Congress.

261 posted on 07/07/2003 8:36:43 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
And the IVXth is chopped liver?
262 posted on 07/07/2003 8:57:26 AM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
His mind, such as it is, is made up. Try not to confuse him with things like "facts".
263 posted on 07/07/2003 9:08:02 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: eno_
And the IVXth

Are you trying to say "XIV"?

264 posted on 07/07/2003 9:10:07 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Dead Corpse
things like "facts".

Actual facts are good.

265 posted on 07/07/2003 9:10:56 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Kevin Curry; Roscoe
The 2nd IS, self-evidently, an individual right; there are NO compelling state/federal interests to infringe upon it.

LOL! Since when does that make the slightest difference to an activist SCOTUS that views the Consotutiona as a "living" malleable document? This SCOTUS legislates according to what's trendy and acceptable to the liberal elite of which they are members. Sodomy is trendy and acceptable. Guns are not.

And IF the court were to 'rule' otherwise; -- this government of the people, and by the people, -- would see a major constitutional crisis. Politically, such a crisis will not be chanced.
States 'rights' to prohibit guns or sex will lose.
Bet on it.

Even the Rinocrat "liberal elite" are not stupid enough to bring this issue to a crisis.
Only you fanatical 'moralists' are that zealous.

266 posted on 07/07/2003 9:17:32 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: tpaine
Even the Rinocrat "liberal elite" are not stupid enough to bring this issue to a crisis.

Wipe the slather off your mouth.

Silveira is a sure loser.

267 posted on 07/07/2003 9:21:46 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
"Slather"?

How weird roscoe.
You boyos are the ones fairly foaming at the mouth, afraid that states will lose the 'right' to prohibit assault weapons. Strange dream.
268 posted on 07/07/2003 9:29:22 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: tpaine
The RKBA at the state and local level finds its protection entirely within the constitutions and laws of the states, just as it always has.

Advocates of centralized power and judicial legislation have never secured those rights in any degree.

269 posted on 07/07/2003 9:35:30 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Please don't tell me you're one of those people who believes that the Second Amendment is for "self-defense".
270 posted on 07/07/2003 9:39:22 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: tpaine; Kevin Curry
Roscoe, you and Kevin are without question FR's most bizarro gun grabbers..

In his defense, I will say that I've never seen any indication that KC is a gun-grabber.

271 posted on 07/07/2003 9:41:38 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: jmc813
Please don't tell me you're one of those people who believes that the Second Amendment is for "self-defense".

The Second Amendment was declaratory of a previously implicit limit on Congressional power.

272 posted on 07/07/2003 9:43:33 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Let them do as they will. The time aproaches.

Another lurking Freeper is watching and waiting....

273 posted on 07/07/2003 9:44:54 AM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: Roscoe
Stil having problems with those words, "Supreme law of the land" I see. You gun grabbers never change...
274 posted on 07/07/2003 9:48:07 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Stil having problems with those words, "Supreme law of the land"

Restrictions on the federal government restrict the federal government. Not very hard to understand.

275 posted on 07/07/2003 9:50:39 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Restrictions on the federal government restrict the federal government. Not very hard to understand.

So the FedGov can outlaw Slavery, but the State's could re-institute it?

Get a grip.

276 posted on 07/07/2003 9:52:51 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
[Restrictions on the federal government restrict the federal government. Not very hard to understand.]

So the FedGov can outlaw Slavery, but the State's could re-institute it?

Wrong.

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

277 posted on 07/07/2003 10:05:57 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: pabianice
Beyer admitted on national TV that he thinks the United States Constitution should be subordinated to [read: eliminted by] "international will." See the discussion on this thread [click here]. Given that this kind of thinking exists on the SCOTUS to any extent whatsoever, no, I don't want them deciding the meaning of the 2nd Amendment (or any other, for that matter).
278 posted on 07/07/2003 10:22:29 AM PDT by Wolfstar (If we don't re-elect GWB — a truly great President — we're NUTS!)
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To: Roscoe
How can you say that but then turn around and say that the Second doesn't apply through the pre-amble to the BOR and the Fourteenth?

You are still delusional...

279 posted on 07/07/2003 10:28:39 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Roscoe
Yes, as in states can't claw back rights, among them freedom for the slaves, that are specifically protected. Or is Alabama free to start up the plantations again?
280 posted on 07/07/2003 10:34:17 AM PDT by eno_
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