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I thought it would be good to post these words of John Adams, regarding key sources for the philosophy of the American Republic.

Going to sources is good for many purposes, not the least of which in this case is the dispelling of undue ideas of the influence of singular philosophers (Locke, or otherwise and certainly no one who came after the American Revolution).

(Going back further, one finds understanding from New Covenant, Former Covenant, and Platonic sources, and further still, the Source of the truths depticted therein, purely and otherwise, respectively.)

"Americans should make collections of all these speculations, to be preserved as the most precious relics of antiquity, both for curiosity and use."

1 posted on 06/30/2003 4:26:21 PM PDT by unspun
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proposed ammendment. call it preservation:

"Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution or the constitution of any state, nor state or federal law, shall be construed to require that marital status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon unmarried couples or groups."
2 posted on 06/30/2003 4:33:45 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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Thought you just might like to note this.
Also, the Web site it lives in is wondrous to behold:
http://personal.pitnet.net/primarysources/

BTW, don't quiz me on all its links just yet... unless it's "open book" of course.

So, It's just after 6:45PM CDST. Do you know where this is bookmarked, this evening? ;-)

3 posted on 06/30/2003 4:46:07 PM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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AAAHHHHH!!!

An ill spent youth can destroy a person's argument faster than anything.

It's back to sleeping four hours a night, and lots of coffee.

Thanks unspun? hehe
10 posted on 06/30/2003 5:30:08 PM PDT by bondserv (Alignment is critical)
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There is genius in a copotent realtionship of the basic systems of government, but always genius evolves to bend it toward the will and profit of a few. As we see in the present instance.

Man does not seem to be able to govern himself in large numbers for any appreciable length of time. A seat of government is always a repository for wealth and power, and has to be to function.

Eventually, attracted by these two corrosive elements to the human soul, less than honest people will perculate to the top. Following will be lesser and greater sociopaths, who will be more successful because they will be willing to do things even a dishonest man will not do to achieve his goal.

Thus proceeds the rot. No, I don't have a solution. Each individual must govern himself for a human government to work, and then, any system will work, or none at all. Perhaps in some future level spiritual evolution.

Sorry to be negative, but history compels me so.

15 posted on 06/30/2003 6:03:08 PM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people)
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Great post - thanks for sharing.
22 posted on 06/30/2003 8:47:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Good post. I've known about primary sources for a while, but haven't been able yet to devise a robot good enough to download it all... hmmmm... maybe I'll try Mozilla under linux.
Stay well.
23 posted on 06/30/2003 8:59:49 PM PDT by djf
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Great link!!

I've had this bookmarked under a different page for a long time, but the links look to be basically the same, AND your link is quicker to load.

Apparently they got all the links from Mr. Gardiner, because his name is mentioned on the Keep and Bear Arms site.

27 posted on 07/01/2003 8:35:13 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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ping keeper
29 posted on 07/01/2003 10:50:49 AM PDT by CGVet58 (I still miss my ex-wife... but my aim is improving!)
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"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever." -Thomas Jefferson

About our massively studied Christian experiment in a Republic, the tactics for the political corruptives and destroyers has been pretty basic:

1. Shift the attention away from the great, great numbers of Christian planners of our republic, and instead onto John Locke and at the time of the Revolution, Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine.

2. Mislabel Locke and Jefferson as "Deists" like Paine.

3. Equate Deism with modern Humanism.

4. Proclaim Marxist dogma as advances of the Humanism of America's founders.

Adams and Jefferson gave credit for the conception of the American Republic to people such as these. Adams listed Algernon Sidney before John Locke (who was a devout if somewhat heretical Christian, yet displaying unheretical wisdom beyond most of today's Christians in certain aspects, including the requirement of freedom from religious control, in his treatise "The Reasonablness of Christianity"). Sidney did not find it necessary to formulate a government out of a twisty double negative (constraint of people only to keep them from violating others' "natural rights") preferring to pull that slip-knot and expound upon the foment of Christian virtue as a fundamental reason for the self-governance of a free people. (Whoodathunkit?)

Naturally -- and supernaturally, he was right. However, he was executed for it. We should heed such wisdom, before we suffer such fates, ourselves. Time for a bringing people (kicking and screaming, as necessary) back down through our roots. That kidn of an inversion, I'm all for.

u

30 posted on 07/02/2003 11:01:32 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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u

Oops. Meant to use the link that had cb88's caption:

"He just saw Hillary..." (America's wannabe executioner).

31 posted on 07/02/2003 11:07:19 AM PDT by unspun ("Do everything in love.")
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bump because I can


66 posted on 01/23/2009 7:29:50 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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