Drugs, Violence Marred JFK Jr.'s Marriage - Report (Another Coke On Toilet Seat Alert)

Reuters ^ | June 30, 2003

[vaudine]

Sounds credible to me. Women(men,too,probably) whacked out on booze or drugs have almost superhuman strength. My state trooper stepdad used to tell some doozies about drunk women. This 6ft2in. guy got beat up by a 5ft woman before he got help in constraining her. My 6 ft. plus husband was an MP in Italy and would rather try to bring in two hulks than one small stoned woman.
It's like a joke of Nelson DeMille's in The Lion's Game: "What's the difference between an Arab terrorist and a woman with PMS?---You can reason with the Arab terrorist."
Same applies with bombed out females. Really, though, I don't think you CAN reason with an Arab terrorist.

vaudine

[ladyinred]

I remember the day in the park before the marriage caught on tape by one of the tabloid shows where Carolyn and John get into an argument and she starts beating the daylights out of him! I was upset when he later married her thinking she had some sort of problem! Can't wait to read the book.

[ladyinred]

me President someday with a Coke Hag as a First Lady?

As opposed to the coke head we did have as a President you mean? :-)

[dead]

I don't mind the name "Flyn" either. (I have a daughter named "Shea," so I'm OK with last names as first names.)

But Flyn Kennedy would have been a really annoying adult. I'm sure of it.

[onyx]

Can't diagree with your post #5. I would only add, that Rose was a closet drunk who mistreated her household help.

[ladyinred]

And the more you know about his daughter, the more you know about the man.

You lost me here, which daughter are you talking about? There were several.

[dead]

I thought Daryl Hannah beat the crap out of him in the park.

Or maybe I'm just confused because he comforted Daryl Hannah after Jackson Browne beat the crap out of her.

Or was it Kim Basinger after Alec Baldwin beat the crap out of her?

It'd be fun to watch Jackson Browne beat the crap out of Alec Baldwin. It'd be more fun to watch Daryl Hannah beat the crap out of Kim Basinger.

[I_be_tc]

IIRC, the Bessette's and Caroline Kennedy, the sister were in a dispute over the time of death of JFK, Jr and Carolyn, the wife. There was some legal ranglings on whether she lived longer than he did and would then inherit all of his money (around $100 million). Then, her family was to inherit it if he pre-deceased her. Caroline, JFK's sister, settled with them on a bunch of his money, but not all of it.

So it was more than just wrongful death of the wife, it was time of death of each one of them. I think it was determined both of the sisters were in the backseat of the plane and died after he did.

TC

[ladyinred]

In all fairness, JFKJr seemed to be a fine young man, who didn't get into the things his cousins did, and in fact he condemned their behavior in his magazine. This is his wife we are talking about, not him. His Mother wisely kept her children at arms length from the other Kennedy kids because she didn't want them to turn out like they did.

[txdoda]

Really, can you see someone as thin as Carolyn jumping on some guy's VCR and doing any damage? >>>>>>

You must of never seen a (thin) woman scorned........when my ex told me I'd get my refrigerator when "he felt like it"....I went (by myself) put it on a dolly, rolled it out the back door & into a pick-up, then for spite, I loaded 'his favorite recliner' too. I might have been 110 lbs at the time.

"Hell hath no fury, like a woman, scorned"

[ClearCase_guy]

JFKJr seemed to be a fine young man

I do not know if he was a sleazy, drug abusing womanizer, so I won't call him those names. Maybe he was a fairly moral person.

However, he flunked the bar exam several times, his magazine was failing, and he was such an irresponsible pilot that he killed himself, his wife and sister-in-law.

Some people think he walked on water and would have been a great American president. Some people are fools.

[nfldgirl]

...to become President someday with a Coke Hag as a First Lady?

As opposed to the coke head we did have as a President you mean? :-)

And his HAG-of-a-wife!

[ALOHA RONNIE]

JFK jr =

A Threat to the KENNEDYS -&- CLINTONS


1) JFK jr labels Joe III & Michael KENNEDY as "Poster-Childs for Bad Behavior" in 'GEORGE' Magazine = One suddenly quits a Governor's Race, the other shamed KENNEDY suddenly turns up dead against a Tree.

2) JFK jr decides to run against HILLARY for the same N.Y. Senate Seat despite HILLARY's coldly telling him to just "Forget about it" earlier that year. (Per DICK MORRIS on FoX, July 19, 1999)

[ladyjane]

got us through the Cuban Missile Crisis

through the Cuban Missle crisis? into the Cuban Middle crisis?

[Conservababe]

You lost me here, which daughter are you talking about? There were several.

Old man Kennedy had his doctors perform a lobotomy on his retarded daughter when she became of the age to be sexually active. He did not seek the advice or permission from Rose or any other family members.

[altura]

I think you're right, I see Kennedy fingerprints all over this.

Why did he make the choice to marry this woman?

Nothing in the article says anything about his own drug use ... if he did or not.

Cross the Kennedy's or the Clinton's and there's Hell to Pay.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

What a sad story. If it's true, I'm sorry that he didn't dump her. He seemed like a nice guy--unlike the other Kennedy's.

[razorback-bert]

a hero because of his PT boat experience.

Strange how every sailor on that boat, became rich or got a great job in the 1950's.

[Joy Angela]

Bump for me, this is horrible.

JFK Jr. was a fine person.

Darn that Hillary!!

JFK Jr. would have bumped
the Clinton's off the
Political-Radar-Screen!!

[TruthNtegrity]

I heard a pilot whose plane was 2 planes away from John Jr.'s report the following - that John Jr., when his wife finally showed up, told her that he wasn't flying, that it had gotten too late. Carolyn threw a hissy fit - the guy said that it was embarrassing to hear her screaming at him, stamping her feet, and announcing that she had "fixed her sister up" with a date where they were dropping her off, and they were going to the wedding (where John and Carolyn were heading) and THAT was that. There was more dialogue but eventually John, under great protestations, finally gave up and told them both to get in the plane.

We all know that the humidity that socked in the coastline, which is where John would be flying since he hadn't yet qualified for his IFR (instrument rating) was as thick as pea soup, he became disoriented, and since he hadn't had enough instrument rating flying time to believe his instruments and not what his head was saying, he crashed. It is the typical pilot-error - not believing the instruments when your body seems to be saying something else. In IFR training, you learn to pay attention ONLY to the instruments, or you wind up boring in. End of story.

It interested me that this guy came forth - I heard him once on MSNBC, early in the day following the crash, and somehow we never heard from him again. I've always wondered if he was discredited or what happened, as he seemed to be genuine, and had the pilot's license and the berthing records to prove that his plane was very close to where JFK Jr.'s was parked.

And for those who don't think she was capable of ruining a VCR by jumping up and down - am I the only one who remembers the famous Central Park fight - where she is seen YELLING and SCREAMING, and gesturing at John? It was an absolutely atrocious fight, and even if you never heard the sound, you would get the idea that this woman, Carolyn, was a class "A" b!tch.

While I'm not on the side of creating a "Kennedy dynasty", I do think that this guy picked wrongly, after Mommy nixed his movie-star girlfriend. On the rebound, he wound up with someone with the same name as his dear sister. Tragic transference, if you ask me.

John Jr. had charisma, and definitely had a future in politics. Whether that would have taken him to the White House, well, we'll never know, will we?

To answer another poster - her sister was very wealthy, having made her mark in investment banking. But frankly, the family had money as well. I thought it ridiculous that they would sue for millions in a wrongful death suit. And if Carolyn *made* John fly, who's fault was that?