Posted on 06/18/2003 4:10:36 PM PDT by areafiftyone
Edited on 06/18/2003 4:31:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
How heartbreaking, and God bless them for working so hard to bring him home to his family. The article is so sad, stating that one body was found in 200 pieces! The horror of it all, and to think, there are those who are screaming about the war on terror!
I hope so, but we don't fight just the radical Islamics now, we fight the left, and even some supposedly on the right.
Not that I'm really against a 9/11 commission, mind you, but there seems to be an implicit assumption in your/Salon's criticism that Government commissions are the best way to ascertain the truth about something.
Is this assumption really warranted? ;-)
That's some "context"... I guess if American were vaporized, all 280 million of us killed, and then a fraction of India came here and took our place, that would "put it in context" as well...? ;-)
Yes, it was bad, but 3000 people dying did not cause this economic depression we are in.
What economic depression? There may be a "recession" depending on how these things are defined, but no way is it a depression.
And two more things. 1. How do you know that 9/11 didn't contribute significantly to the current recession? 2. Even if it didn't, that doesn't "put" anything "in context". The fact that 9/11 didn't help cause all current bad situations doesn't diminish its importance.
We are not fighting in Iraq because of the 17 people who did this, because most of them(14) were Saudi's from Saudi Arabia, not Iraqis.
The fact that the majority of hijackers were Saudi nationals doesn't prove that we are not fighting in Iraq "because of 9/11". It's actually quite reasonable to suggest that we are fighting in Iraq because of 9/11; after all, just ask yourself if we would have invaded Iraq had there been no 9/11. It would have been near unthinkable.
Please understand this doesn't mean I'm saying that Iraq perpretrated 9/11. Just that the fact that 9/11 wasn't perpretated by Iraqi nationals doesn't mean that our war in Iraq wasn't connected to that event.
After we were attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japanese nationals, we made war against Germany for some reason, despite the fact that no German nationals participated in the Pearl Harbor attack. This probably confuses you as well?
Too many people are trying to put all the blame of everything, the war, and the economy, on the WTC incident,
Actually, I don't think anyone is trying to put "all the blame of everything" on the WTC incident. Who is, in your view?
and on Iraq.
Ditto. No one's blaming everything on Iraq. I don't know who you think you're responding to with your post.
Actually there are zero options for an investigation that everyone could agree with. :-)
Again, I have no real problem in principle with a Government Commission to investigate 9/11, I'm just saying it isn't the panacea of truth discovery it's being made out to be. Best,
I know that for some families, being informed of found/identified body parts of their loved ones force them to think about the suffering and agony (both physical and emotional) that their loved ones suffered in their last moments on Earth.
Every day, 3000 babies die, yet we increase our population by 3000 each day. The fact that on 9/11, 6000 died, and our population held constant for one day, did not have "any" effect on our economy,it is too small, and too little, to have any effect on our huge economy. People who blame the poor economy for the past 2 years on one single day where the population in the United States did not increase, are using it as an excuse. There are 280 million people in this county, we have 3000 abortions each day, we have 5000 births each day, we immigrate 57,000 new legal immigrants each week, and another illegal 50,000 come in each day.
3000 extra people dying on 9-11 did not hurt our economy any more than Pearl Harbor did in 1941, nor did D-Day in June of 1944 throw us into an economic depression, nor Gettysburg, nor the massacre of Custer in 1876, etc , etc.
Frankly, I would like to see those responsible for the 14 Saudis and the 3 others from the United Arab Emerites who DID blew up the WTC(not the Iraqis) and kill americans to be found and punsished.
In the final analysis, the war in Iraq was actually a detraction to the finding of those who did cause the WTC and pentagon killings.
It does not confuse me at all, does it confuse you?
"some reason"?
I will tell you what that "some reason" was:
FYI: Germany formally declared war on the United States immediately after Pearl Harbor.
You seem to think "economy" is a synonym for "population". I may not be an economist but even I know that's a load of crap. The fact that the WTC was destroyed, that airplane flights became instantaneously more expensive and time-consuming, that tourism decreased, that tax money formerly used for more productive things was instantly diverted to security and military... none of these things figure on your economic radar screen. It's all just population numbers and to you, nothing else affects the economy. Don't you know how downright idiotic that sounds?
People who blame the poor economy for the past 2 years on one single day where the population in the United States did not increase, are using it as an excuse.
Nobody "blames" the poor economy completely on 9/11. You're right that 9/11 did not completely cause the current economy. After all, the economy had started slumping at the end of Clinton's term. You're right that there are, and have been, other factors.
But 9/11 didn't help. Did it?
There are 280 million people in this county, we have 3000 abortions each day, we have 5000 births each day, we immigrate 57,000 new legal immigrants each week, and another illegal 50,000 come in each day.
Fascinating. Irrelevant.
3000 extra people dying on 9-11 did not hurt our economy any more than..
Get it through your skull: it's not merely the dead people which harmed the economy per se. Sheesh.
Frankly, I would like to see those responsible for the 14 Saudis and the 3 others from the United Arab Emerites who DID blew up the WTC(not the Iraqis) and kill americans to be found and punsished.
Me too.
In the final analysis, the war in Iraq was actually a detraction to the finding of those who did cause the WTC and pentagon killings.
How so?
FYI: Germany formally declared war on the United States immediately after Pearl Harbor.
But that can't be. Americans did not participate in attacks against Germany just as Iraqis participated in 9/11.
I had a close relative who was murdered practically on the same day as 9-11. It is really quite offensive of "YOU" to say that the death of anyone, my relative, is is not as "good" as another, just because they may have been murdered in a place other than in NYC or Washington DC that day.
Furthermore, FYI, the United States did not go to war with Iraq, and the american economy did not lose 3 million jobs, just because "my" relative happened to be murdered that day.
If you are trying to show some "benefit"(i.e. war on terror, economy, whatever) to my relative being murdered on 9-11, or the other people in the WTC being murdered on 9-11, then prove it and tell us how it relates. Prove to us how we are now safer, how we have less to fear from terroris, or being murdered.
I dont see how any of us are now safer, or, have less to fear from terrorism now, then we did several years ago.
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