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Rebranding puts black marks against UK flag (Political Correctness run amuck! WTF???)
BBC News ^ | 6/12/03

Posted on 06/11/2003 1:02:33 PM PDT by areafiftyone

Britain's national flag - the union jack - has been given the makeover treatment, in the hope of reflecting a more modern society.

It's become the marketing executive's remedy for any organisation's ills. From BT to BP, the Labour Party to the Lottery, hardly a business or institution has escaped the rebranding bug.

Now moves are afoot to redesign that most sacred of British hallmarks - the union flag.

A campaign is being launched to modernise the red, white and blue flag by adding a touch of black to reflect multicultural Britain in the 21st Century.

The proposed new flag (see above) is the work of Nigel Turner, an enthusiastic fan of the UK's transformation into a multiracial society over the past 50 years.

Mr Turner has contacted MPs about his new design and has already received the backing of Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, who called it a "fantastic idea [for] celebrating diversity of the modern United Kingdom".

Mr Turner, who has called his campaign Reflag, believes his plan would reclaim the union jack from its negative associations, and silence that old skinhead chant: "There ain't no black in the union jack."

"If I flew the union jack from a flagpole in my garden, many people would see it as a racist statement," he says.

"I'm a glass half-full, rather than half-empty sort of person. It's time we made a positive statement about the progression of a multicultural and multiracial society."

400th anniversary

The union flag was first seen in 1606 and the version that we know today was drawn up by the College of Arms in 1801 to represent the Act of Union.

Mr Turner, 46, who is white, hopes to spark a debate on the flag. He would like to see a new design replace the current union jack for the flag's 400th anniversary in 2006.

"The proposed design does not mean throwing out all that has gone before, and it is clearly recognisable as the flag of the UK without saying something new."

But as makeovers go, even a designer as thick-skinned as Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen would think twice about treading into such perilous territory.

The so-called "union black" has already raised the ire of the Scottish. Tuesday's Scotsman newspaper said Mr Turner had "missed the point".

"The United Kingdom is not a firm which changes its corporate branding each time the management alters. The flag is an enduring symbol of unity which transcends politics and absorbs cultural change."

MSP Phil Gallie told the Scottish Parliament: "The suggestion that our flag should be redesigned is ridiculous tokenism and would do nothing to stamp out racism."

So what does Mr Turner need to do to make his flag official? The answer is not black and white, says flags expert Charles Ashburner.

"There are no laws governing the union flag. Primarily, it's the monarch's flag, but it has come to represent the UK through common usage.

"So to make it official, he just has to make people believe it's the official flag. It will never take the place of the union flag of course, but it could became a sort of quasi-official flag if enough people flew it."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: uk; unionjack
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1 posted on 06/11/2003 1:02:34 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: MadIvan
ping
2 posted on 06/11/2003 1:03:33 PM PDT by lorrainer (Oh, was I ranting? Sorry.....)
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To: areafiftyone
Please.
3 posted on 06/11/2003 1:03:42 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: areafiftyone
OMG is this for real? I cannot imagine anything more stupid.
4 posted on 06/11/2003 1:06:19 PM PDT by lawgirl (God's divine and all-knowing punishment for the Clintons: America loves George W. Bush)
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To: areafiftyone
"Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for the West as it commits suicide."

— James Burnham
5 posted on 06/11/2003 1:06:38 PM PDT by TheWillardHotel
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To: Jonathon Spectre
what's wrong with the old hammer and sickle?
6 posted on 06/11/2003 1:06:43 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: areafiftyone
Actually, heritage and tradition notwithstanding, it looks kinda cool!
7 posted on 06/11/2003 1:06:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: areafiftyone
This truly only makes sense if you think of Britain as composed of red, white and blue people.
8 posted on 06/11/2003 1:07:04 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: areafiftyone
Why not just start flying the E.U. flag instead?

After all, the United Kingdom appears to be on it's way out anyway, at least as a sovereign nation.

Oh, nevermind, their "ain't no black" in the E.U. flag either... LOL

9 posted on 06/11/2003 1:07:11 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: areafiftyone
I like the old one. But whatever.
10 posted on 06/11/2003 1:07:44 PM PDT by sirshackleton
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To: areafiftyone
Where's the crescent in the new design?
11 posted on 06/11/2003 1:07:53 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: areafiftyone
Coming soon .....

To an Old Glory near you, too.

[Expect it to happen here, as well.]
12 posted on 06/11/2003 1:08:40 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Drew68
I have to agree, that looks like a kick ass flag. The empire might still be together if they had that thing flying. Stupid, stupid idea though.
13 posted on 06/11/2003 1:09:25 PM PDT by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
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To: lorrainer
How about just putting a black skull and crossbones on the old one to represent the multicultural poison they are committing national suicide with.

God help them and us.
14 posted on 06/11/2003 1:12:14 PM PDT by Thorondir
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To: Mr.Clark; Drew68
Looks too much like it's trying to be a Hakenkreuz to me, that red-black-white combination has other connotations to many.
15 posted on 06/11/2003 1:14:12 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Mr.Clark
Stupid, stupid idea though.

Yes, the new flag does look kickass but the reasons behind the change are loathsome.

And on this principle, I hope they do not change the flag.

16 posted on 06/11/2003 1:15:30 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Actually, heritage and tradition notwithstanding, it looks kinda cool!

No, it doesn't.

Imagine the Stars and Stripes in Red, White Blue and Black. No Thanks.

17 posted on 06/11/2003 1:16:26 PM PDT by Prof Engineer ( Texans don't even care where Europe is on the map.)
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To: TomGuy
Why not... when the states, like GA, are changing their flags, then the Union Jack and next Old Glory.
18 posted on 06/11/2003 1:16:36 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: CatoRenasci
Looks too much like it's trying to be a Hakenkreuz to me, that red-black-white combination has other connotations to many.

I was thinking the same thing but did not want to say as much --particularly after saying how cool I thought the new flag looked!

But let's be honest here, The Nazis had some sharp-looking symbols. From their uniforms to their tanks, planes, flags and banners, the Nazis were all about looking good!

19 posted on 06/11/2003 1:18:24 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: areafiftyone
Nawwww....we can't have the Union Jack, it looks too much like the Battle Flag of the Confederacy!! I can feel their pain. Reparations I tell you, reparations!!! Where's Jesse? Where's Al? Where's WJC with a tear in his eye for all of the pain and suffering? Political correctness needs to be met with a stiff kick in the buttocks to the whiney offendees.
20 posted on 06/11/2003 1:20:56 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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