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Only a Palestinian civil war will bring peace (Dennis Prager)
Town Hall ^ | June 10, 2003 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 06/09/2003 10:06:55 PM PDT by Tamzee

Like the proverbial broken record, some of us have been saying for years that only one thing can bring peace to the Middle East: a Palestinian civil war.

It should now be as obvious as anything can be that this is the case. A significant percentage of Palestinians do not want peace with Israel; they want peace without an Israel. If these individuals and groups are not fought by those Palestinians who want peace with Israel, peace is impossible.

The need for Palestinians to fight one another in order to make a state is hardly unique. Many states, including the United States and, to a lesser extent, Israel, have had to fight civil wars in order to survive.

If the American government had not been prepared to fight a civil war, there would be no United States as we know it, and slavery in America would not have been abolished. Likewise, the first prime minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, killed fellow Jews who resisted his call to put down their arms and accept the Israeli government.

The questions for the Palestinian Prime Minister Abu Mazen are therefore as stark and as difficult:

Does he have the courage and leadership qualities to be the Palestinians' Lincoln or Ben-Gurion?

Does he have enough support among Palestinians, who in every poll over the last years have supported terror and the destruction of Israel, to engage in political and military battle with fellow Palestinians?

Can he neutralize Yasser Arafat, who encourages the Palestinian terror groups?

And if the Palestinian prime minister does take on Hamas and other terrorist groups, can he avoid being assassinated by fellow Palestinians who want Israel destroyed? Could he survive an almost inevitable assassination plot organized by the Iranian regime, the major supporter of those who seek Israel's destruction?

We do not know the answers to these questions. But we will know them soon. Because without a positive answer to each, peace is not possible.

We are at one of those rare and important moments in history when anyone who wants to can see the roots of a world conflict with perfect clarity. The only reason there has not been peace between Israel and its Palestinian and other Arab neighbors since 1948 is the refusal of most Arabs and large numbers of Muslims elsewhere to accept the existence of a Jewish state in Israel.

Israel showed at Camp David in 2000 that it will do everything except commit suicide for real peace with the Palestinians. Yet precisely when Israel offered a Palestinian state on 95 percent of the West Bank, Palestinians resumed blowing up Israelis wherever Israelis live, eat, travel, pray and work. It was clear to all but those who hate Israel that Yasser Arafat and the Palestinians wanted Israel destroyed more than they wanted a state. And now, once again, Israel is making clear its willingness to do just about anything for peace -- this time under a right-wing prime minister.

It is time for the world to see the 55-year-old truth that Israel wants peace while its enemies want Israel destroyed . . . unless the Palestinians are willing to fight their terrorists. Nothing will demonstrate that Palestinians are willing to live alongside Israel as much as their willingness to fight fellow Palestinians.

For those who claim "war never solves anything," a mantra of such ignorance that only the well educated believe it, the Palestinians can provide another example of how war, or at least a willingness to wage war, can solve a great deal. Just as the Nazi atrocities were ended only by war, so, too, the Palestinians will have a state and enjoy peace and freedom only by declaring, and if need be fighting, a war. A civil war.

For their sake and the world's sake, let us pray they wage it.

©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dennisprager; israel; middleeast; palestine; peace
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1 posted on 06/09/2003 10:06:55 PM PDT by Tamzee
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To: Tamsey
This is precisely what had begun to happen when the "RoadMap" interfered. Talk about timing!
2 posted on 06/09/2003 10:10:12 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Tamsey
The palestinians are side elements in this. The problem is with the entire Muslim world.
3 posted on 06/09/2003 10:15:32 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Tamsey
I have to respectfully have to disagree with him on this. A civil war would not bring peace at all. Violence is part and parcel of their (Arabic) world. The children are taught in the Madrassas to hate. It is reinforced in their Mosques, schools, and media. The only thing that would work is total conquest of them and the forbidding of such teachings.

It would be more comparable to what the allies did in Nazi Germany to the Hitler youth. Even then, it would not ensure any peace.

4 posted on 06/09/2003 10:19:59 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: SJackson
ping
5 posted on 06/09/2003 10:22:36 PM PDT by Sparta (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Tamsey
Let the blood flow down the streets of Gaza City, Ramallah, Jenin, Hebron, and all the other Pali hellhole cities.
6 posted on 06/09/2003 10:23:20 PM PDT by Sparta (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Tamsey; rmlew
A significant percentage of Palestinians do not want peace with Israel; they want peace without an Israel.

I don't think they want peace at all, just for Israel to disappear. The only thing they hate more than Jews is other Arabs.

7 posted on 06/09/2003 10:26:19 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Tamsey
"Can he neutralize Yasser Arafat, who encourages the Palestinian terror groups?

Simple...
Kill Arafat, sieze the money he has stolen..
and kill anyone that attempts to become the new Terrorist Agitator that he has been for decades...

Semper Fi

8 posted on 06/09/2003 10:36:31 PM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: Tamsey
Prager makes it sound so easy, like going to the polls to take a vote and poof! the militants are out-voted and lay down their arms. Arafat was not re-elected as their president because the Palestinians liked him. He was re-elected because they justifiably feared for their lives if they voted otherwise. The same goes for raising arms against a better-armed and better trained militia.

I seriously doubt that the general population of civilians would stand a chance, and they have to know that it would be suicide for them to try.

I firmly believe that, now that President has expressed his expectations, that we would be justified in annihilating Hamas, the PLO, and whatever the hell other terrorist organization who stands in the way of peace.

The world basically demanded that we intercede, and so we should -- with our own brand of justice.

9 posted on 06/09/2003 10:43:21 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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To: bjcintennessee
I firmly believe that, now that President has expressed his expectations, that we would be justified in annihilating Hamas, the PLO, and whatever the hell other terrorist organization who stands in the way of peace.

As P. J. O'Rourke says, "give war a chance."

10 posted on 06/09/2003 10:49:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Nachum
I would say I'm in your camp on this one.
11 posted on 06/09/2003 10:54:18 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Sparta
The sooner the better...
12 posted on 06/09/2003 10:57:30 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Tamsey
It should now be as obvious as anything can be that this is the case. A significant percentage of Palestinians do not want peace with Israel; they want peace without an Israel. If these individuals and groups are not fought by those Palestinians who want peace with Israel, peace is impossible.

According to the polls, the percentage that are for war is over 80%, the percentage that are for peace is less than 20%.

If there is a civil war, the percentage for war will be 100%. Therefore the only real solution is for Israel to declare war and win.

13 posted on 06/10/2003 1:05:14 AM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong)
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To: American in Israel
the percentage that are for war is over 80%, the percentage that are for peace is less than 20%.

Ouch! I had no idea those agitating for war comprised such a high number of their population... just shows what brain-washing your children with poison can do :-(

14 posted on 06/10/2003 5:03:56 AM PDT by Tamzee ( It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. - J. Swift)
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To: Tamsey
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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15 posted on 06/10/2003 5:47:52 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
16 posted on 06/10/2003 5:51:16 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Ahhhh......

One of my favorite, peace loving palie pictures.

Says it all.

Can you say Statehood?

17 posted on 06/10/2003 5:54:05 AM PDT by Jimmyclyde
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To: bjcintennessee
No way can America take sides in this publically.

We can encourage Israel to destroy the Palestinians though. Why they have not taken out Arafat is beyond me. There is never going to be a negotiated peace, only a forced peace at the point of a gun. The Palestinian leadership supporting Hamas must be wiped out.

I believe that the road map is a prelude to Palestinian civil war, but it wont come soon enough to save Sharon.
18 posted on 06/10/2003 6:05:00 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: SJackson
Just one horror after another :-(
19 posted on 06/10/2003 6:26:54 AM PDT by Tamzee ( It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. - J. Swift)
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To: Nachum
FYI
Wahhabi Islam – the Real Enemy of the West Wahhabi Islam – the Real Enemy of the West
SFTT | 5/30/2003 | Robert G. Williscroft

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/924852/posts

Kudos to redrock.
20 posted on 06/10/2003 7:16:24 AM PDT by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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