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The 51st and 52nd states
National Post ^
| June 7, 2003
| Lawrence Solomon
Posted on 06/07/2003 11:21:23 AM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
Any artists conceptions been done of what a flag for the next few possibilities of added states would look like? 51, 52, 53, 54 stars? Does the US government itself keep such designs waiting in the wings?
To: Mister Magoo
I'd cheer, I think.
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posted on
06/07/2003 12:38:19 PM PDT
by
Quix
(HEBREW VOWEL ISSUE DISCUSSED, SCHOLARS N JUNE BCD search for TRUE HEAD TO HEAD COMPARISON CONTINUES)
To: Mister Magoo
I suppose that, even if Alberta and BC were to become US states by their own choice--the US would still be branded as imperialist, merely for allowing it. And that we did so only for oil. And that we are now oppressing all the Vancouver potheads, acting like hegemons, blah blah blah jingoistic blah blah blah military-industrial complex yadda yadda long live Chairman Mao blah blah...arright, I guess I'm getting carried away now.
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posted on
06/07/2003 12:40:12 PM PDT
by
HassanBenSobar
(I now inform you that you are too far from reality!)
To: Katana16j
It's funny that some of the former Soviet republics are more "American" than Democrats in this country. Let's just move Democrats to Poland and move the Poles here.
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posted on
06/07/2003 12:52:15 PM PDT
by
GraniteStateConservative
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
To: Mister Magoo
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posted on
06/07/2003 12:55:42 PM PDT
by
rederic
To: Mister Magoo
The U.S. can minimize foreign oil imports any time it wants.
All that is necessary to do is to stop making those damn SUVs.
To: fieldmarshaldj
Not so fast, Vancouver and Victoria have some of the best 'Gentleman's Clubs' known to man....
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posted on
06/07/2003 12:56:08 PM PDT
by
BlueNgold
(Feed the Tree .....)
To: curmudgeonII
The U.S. can minimize foreign oil imports any time it wants.
All that is necessary to do is to stop making those damn SUVs. Please please please tell me you are joking ....
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posted on
06/07/2003 12:57:14 PM PDT
by
BlueNgold
(Feed the Tree .....)
To: Mister Magoo
I always thought that confusion & denial were the 51st&52nd states!
LOL :)
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posted on
06/07/2003 12:59:49 PM PDT
by
Knightsofswing
(sic semper tranyis [death to tryants!])
To: fish hawk
"Actually there would still only be 50 states as we lose Kalifornia and Arizona back to Mexico." Seems like a good trade to me, although I don't think the liberals would stand for it....far too many white people in Canada to suit their taste.
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posted on
06/07/2003 1:00:12 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: Mister Magoo
The first paragraph is rather silly. Alberta's oil already goes into the US via the Interprovicial/Lakehead pipeline.
To: Mister Magoo
The Treaty of Peace between the United States and Great Britain, 1783, which ended the Revolutionary war hostilities is still recognized by International Law as valid. It says in it that Canada may, at it's own dicretion, at an time, with or without Congrssional approval, as a whole, join the United States. It doesn't say whether that means an isolated Province or not.
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posted on
06/07/2003 1:04:30 PM PDT
by
djf
To: Mister Magoo
With Alberta as America's 51st state, the U.S. would secure 300 billion barrels of recoverable oil reserves, more than exist in Saudi Arabia.If this is true, why do we even bother with the middle east for our oil supplies? It's right next door, in a country that we now tolerate but usually like. Smaller shipping costs as well.
Something's fishy about this one.
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posted on
06/07/2003 1:05:48 PM PDT
by
JimRed
(Disinformation is the leftist's and enemy's friend; consider the source before believing.)
To: Mister Magoo
wouldn't it be cheaper just to buy it, and not have to pay those high welfare and health costs of canada?
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posted on
06/07/2003 1:06:28 PM PDT
by
liberalnot
(what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
To: Canadian Outrage
Thought you might have an opinion about this.
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posted on
06/07/2003 1:07:10 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: BlueNgold
Please please please tell me you are joking ....Nope.
To: Alberta's Child
Forget it -- the author is confusing the conservative spirit of Alberta with a pro-American one.That could very well be. It's hard to think why they'd want to change the external tax collector if they could survive without one. Those provinces that can stand on their own probably will. Those that feel they need a sponsor or protector or benefactor, like the Maritimes or the other prarie provinces, will seek one. It's possible that "Canada" will survive its dissolution as a much looser federation, minus Quebec and the subsidies of the less prosperous provinces -- a "commonwealth of independent states" tied into NAFTA.
If the trend is towards smaller countries tied together in pacts, alliances and common markets it's hard to see why Albertans would make an exception just for us. If it were just a question of the US versus Canada, there might be some support for joining us, but the independence option is likely to be stronger, all other things (defense, trade, freedom of movement) being equal.
If anything, Alberta is probably more strongly opposed to joining the U.S. than any other Canadian province is.
Could be. Oil does tend to produce a desire for independence, as it did in Scotland and, in a different way, Norway. And you can't expect those whose sentiments make them critical of government intervention to fall in behind one of the world's largest and most powerful governments. You'd know more about it than I would, but they do seem much better disposed to American values than other provinces, so the temptation is to presume that they would like being in our club more than the others.
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posted on
06/07/2003 1:10:22 PM PDT
by
x
To: djf
And now after re-reading it I can't find it...
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posted on
06/07/2003 1:13:02 PM PDT
by
djf
To: Alberta's Child
"When asked to choose between Ottawa and Washington, most Albertans would select Calgary."
And the rest, Edmonton. ;^)
Alberta and B.C. together would make a very fine country, indeed. We'll put the capital in Pouce Coupe. ;^)
To: Mister Magoo
Throw in Saskatchewan and it's a deal.
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