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Goose population drops 75 percent in Seattle parks (In lib vs lib, PETA goose is cooked)
Seattle Times ^ | 6/4/03 | Emily Heffter

Posted on 06/04/2003 1:04:55 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat

The Canada goose population in Seattle parks is down by about 75 percent from three years ago, when federal agents started rounding up and killing thousands of the birds to control their numbers.

Federal wildlife agents have destroyed more than 5,600 geese in Seattle since a federal judge ruled in 2000 that the government could kill Canada geese in portable gas chambers set up on the back of trucks.

The more aggressive approach has worked to the point where people can "see and enjoy" the geese, but "not be slipping in poop everywhere," said Roger Woodruff, a U.S. Department of Agriculture official in Olympia.

"We're very encouraged by the success of it so far," Woodruff said.

Bacteria in bird waste also is blamed by park officials for causing so-called "swimmer's itch" in local waters. But while Woodruff and Seattle parks officials call the eradication program a success, animal-rights activists are girding for another season of protest. They say the roundups are cruel and unnecessary and advocate nonlethal methods.

At Westlake Center yesterday, activists showed a video of federal agents shoving honking geese into a gas chamber in the back of a truck. One protester wore a goose costume and carried a sign reading: "Seattle — you slay me."

Agents use bread and rowboats to get the geese onto land and into fenced pens in June and July.

For the past three years, activists have staked out area parks, keeping watch in shifts for game agents. If the agents appear, the activists shoo the birds into the water, where they are not allowed to be captured.

Instead of killing birds, opponents including the Humane Society of the United States and PAWS advocate spraying goose eggs — or addling them — with vegetable or mineral oil, which kills the embryos when air can't get through the eggshell.

The most humane way to control geese, opponents say, would be to addle eggs; plant thick shrubs, which discourage them from coming ashore; and use dogs to chase the birds away.

"What they have never done in Seattle is a comprehensive program — doing all of these things at one time for a long period of time," said Jennifer Hillman, a legislative coordinator for the Progressive Animal Welfare Society, or PAWS.

But Woodruff said killing the birds was a last resort. Starting in 1993, agents addled almost 12,000 eggs.

But Canada geese live for about 15 years, so even if their eggs don't hatch one year, they'll try again the next, Woodruff said.

There are about 20,000 adult Canada geese in the Puget Sound area, according to a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife estimate.

Seattle Parks and Recreation spokeswoman Dewey Potter said the city tried other methods before it hired federal wildlife agents on a $3,000-a-year contract to kill birds.

"We hate having to do it," Potter said. "It's painful and we don't like it."

In past years, the city tried attaching a shiny fringe to docks to scare geese away; it sprayed a grape-based substance that tastes bitter to birds to discourage them from eating the grass; and it relocated birds.

Potter said the department has received threatening e-mails and phone calls and protesters demonstrated in front of the home of Parks and Recreation Superintendent Ken Bounds on Sunday and Monday.

"They are slaughtering animals in public parks, and he is the man who is doing it. He should be tormented," said Bob Chorush of Give Geese a Chance.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: birdbrains; cookedgoose; fowloder; good4thegander; goosesteppers; honkies; looseygoosey
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Sheesh, haven't the animal whacko's ever heard of 'The Tragedy of the Commons'?
1 posted on 06/04/2003 1:04:56 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
For the past three years, activists have staked out area parks, keeping watch in shifts for game agents. If the agents appear, the activists shoo the birds into the water, where they are not allowed to be captured.
2 posted on 06/04/2003 1:05:37 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Federal wildlife agents have destroyed more than 5,600 geese in Seattle since a federal judge ruled in 2000 that the government could kill Canada geese in portable gas chambers set up on the back of trucks.

Gee, taking them to a mini-Auschwits is so much more humane than hunting them. </sarcasm>

3 posted on 06/04/2003 1:06:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Instead of killing birds, opponents including the Humane Society of the United States and PAWS advocate spraying goose eggs — or addling them — with vegetable or mineral oil, which kills the embryos when air can't get through the eggshell.

Ah yes, once again abortion is the humane solution...

4 posted on 06/04/2003 1:06:48 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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What a waste - those birds should've been eaten. They should open up a limited goose hunt.

LQ
5 posted on 06/04/2003 1:08:57 PM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: Diddle E. Squat
said Bob Chorush of ,b>Give Geese a Chance.

I can just hear John Lenin singing now...

BTW, why not donate the geese to shelters to be cooked and served as food? So what if the homeless started whining about goose like the kid did about turkey in 'A Christmas Story' ("Goose this, goose that, goose sandwiches, goose soup, goose casserole, goose goulache,...), beggars can't be choosers.

6 posted on 06/04/2003 1:10:01 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
This is real, right? Its not another Onion report? We have the same problem in our area, the geese don't go south anymore. They just hang around all year and the flocks just keep getting bigger. Where are all the hunters? (Actually its too close to the residential areas for goose hunting)
7 posted on 06/04/2003 1:10:51 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Diddle E. Squat
We had a huge flock of geese at the place the business I work for moved to. On the weekends they would poop all over the parking lots. What a mess.
8 posted on 06/04/2003 1:11:50 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: LizardQueen
PETA - People for the Eating of Tasty Animals!
9 posted on 06/04/2003 1:13:37 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb
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I agree on the hunt...

Gasing birds isn't the way to do it....
10 posted on 06/04/2003 1:14:52 PM PDT by najida (A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

USS DuckDestroyer

11 posted on 06/04/2003 1:18:07 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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A hunt would not be practical. These geese are at busy parks and beaches. Way too many people around. There was a suggestion to give the gassed geese to a food bank for distribution to the needy. I'm not sure what came of that.
12 posted on 06/04/2003 1:19:22 PM PDT by Dilly
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To: jriemer
Nice dog!
13 posted on 06/04/2003 1:19:43 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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"What a waste - those birds should've been eaten."

Agreed. I think I remember reading the meat was offered to the shelters and food banks. The offers were rejected because of the lack of a USDA inspection protocol.

Can't have the needy eating non-goobernint certfied, (but safe), food, no way!

14 posted on 06/04/2003 1:23:22 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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They say the roundups are cruel and unnecessary and advocate nonlethal methods.

Have they considered teaching the birds abstinence, or handing out birth control at goose high schools?

15 posted on 06/04/2003 1:23:49 PM PDT by Some hope remaining.
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To: Sunshine Sister
Canadian geese as beautiful as they are, are becoming a real nuisance..like flying rats. We can thank Ducks Unlimited.
17 posted on 06/04/2003 1:28:19 PM PDT by Zipporah
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I am in South GA and they are becoming more and more prevalent.....

20 years ago, we never saw them.
18 posted on 06/04/2003 1:29:57 PM PDT by najida (A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.)
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To: Dilly
A hunt would not be practical. These geese are at busy parks and beaches. Way too many people around.

OK, so close the park one morning per week, and open it for bow-hunting. Arrows make no noise, and have limited range, making them much safer than shotguns. Plus if you do it from tree-stands, any misses will just go into the ground near the goose.

19 posted on 06/04/2003 1:31:49 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: Dilly
Ok, no hunt. Get them into the pens just as they are doing now but take them out one-by-one and behead them like chickens and they could still make a tasty meal. Give them to the people that didn't get the 400.00 tax hand-out.
20 posted on 06/04/2003 1:41:31 PM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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