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From PlayStation to Supercomputer for $50,000
New York Times ^ | 2003-05-26 | By JOHN MARKOFF

Posted on 05/26/2003 6:27:15 AM PDT by Lessismore

As perhaps the clearest evidence yet of the computing power of sophisticated but inexpensive video-game consoles, the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign has assembled a supercomputer from an army of Sony PlayStation 2's.

The resulting system, with components purchased at retail prices, cost a little more than $50,000. The center's researchers believe the system may be capable of a half trillion operations a second, well within the definition of supercomputer, although it may not rank among the world's 500 fastest supercomputers.

Perhaps the most striking aspect of the project, which uses the open source Linux operating system, is that the only hardware engineering involved was placing 70 of the individual game machines in a rack and plugging them together with a high-speed Hewlett-Packard network switch. The center's scientists bought 100 machines, but are holding 30 in reserve, possibly for high-resolution display application.

"It took a lot of time because you have to cut all of these things out of the plastic packaging," said Craig Steffen, a senior research scientist at the center, who is one of four scientists working part time on the project.

The scientists are taking advantage of a standard component of the Sony video-game console that was originally intended to move and transform pixels rapidly on a television screen to produce lifelike graphics. The chip is not the PlayStation 2's MIPS microprocessor, but rather a graphics co-processor known as the Emotion Engine. That custom designed silicon chip is capable of producing up to 6.5 billion mathematical operations a second.

The impressive performance of the game machine, which has been on the market for a few years, underscores a radical shift that has taken place in the computing world since the end of the cold war in the late 1980's, according to the researchers.

While the most advanced computing technologies have historically been developed first for large corporate users and military contractors, increasingly the fastest computers are being developed for the consumer market and for products meant to be placed under Christmas trees.

"If you look at the economics of game platforms and the power of computing on toys, this is a long-term market trend and computing trend," said Dan Reed, the supercomputing center's director. "The economics are just amazing. This is going to drive the next big wave in high-performance computing."

The scientists have their eyes on a variety of consumer hardware, he said. For example Nvidia, the maker of graphics cards for personal computers, is now selling a high-performance graphics card that is capable of executing 51 billion mathematical operations a second.

The pace of the consumer computing world is moving so quickly that the researchers are building the PlayStation 2-based supercomputer as an experiment to see how quickly they can take advantage of off-the-shelf low-cost technologies.

"I think we'd like to be able to transfer a lot of our experience to the next generation," he said.

Despite the computing promise of game consoles that sell for less than $200, the researchers acknowledged that the experiment was likely to be most useful for a group of relatively narrow scientific problems.

They added that while the system was already doing scientific calculations, they cannot be certain about its ultimate computing potential until they write more carefully tuned software routines that can move data in and out of the custom processor quickly. The limited memory of the Sony game console — 32 megabytes of memory — would also restrict the practical applications of the supercomputer, they said.

But they noted that the computer was already running useful calculations on quantum chromodynamics, or QCD, simulations. QCD is a theory concerning the so-called strong interactions that bind elementary particles like quarks and gluons together to form hadrons, the constituents of nuclear matter.

The ability to lower the cost of QCD simulation in itself would be significant, the researchers said, because such problems are the single largest consumer of computing resources on supercomputers at the Department of Energy and the National Energy Research Scientific Computing Center.

Still, several supercomputer experts said that the memory and computing bandwidth limitations of the PlayStation would prohibit broader applications of the machine.

Gordon Bell, a Microsoft computer scientist and a veteran of the supercomputer world, said the PlayStation supercomputer might find its best application as a computer for the large digital display walls that are used by the Defense Department.

Dr. Bell awards annual computing prizes that include a category for the best price/performance in high performance computing. "They should enter my contest," he said.

The supercomputing center scientists said they had chosen the PlayStation 2 because Sony sells a special Linux module that includes a high-speed network connection and a disk drive.

By contrast, it is almost impossible for researchers to install the Linux system on Microsoft's Xbox game console.

Using a network of machines is not a new concept in the supercomputing world. Linux, which plays a major role in that world, has been used to assemble high-performance parallel computers built largely out of commodity hardware components. These machines are generally called Beowulf clusters.


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To: sparky samson
Playstation 2 processors have zero relation to the PowerMac processors.

You are confusing the Game Cube which uses a RISC processor that is similar to the Motorola PowerPC G3 processor.
21 posted on 05/26/2003 8:24:33 AM PDT by TheBattman
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To: Mannaggia l'America
I wasn't talking about that particular project. I was talking about the R&D done by private companies to bring speed to the gaming market. The video game industry is highly competetive. Those who compete in that market have to keep the price of their product affordable to the masses, yet despite that limit, they have excelled in producing the speed desired by their customers.
22 posted on 05/26/2003 8:40:23 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Lessismore
By contrast, it is almost impossible for researchers to install the Linux system on Microsoft's Xbox game console.

Gee, Imagine that.

23 posted on 05/26/2003 8:41:38 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: DPB101
Right you are. Stupid laws do a lot more to turn Americans into criminals and provide excuses for the BATF to kick in doors than they do to make us safer.
24 posted on 05/26/2003 8:47:21 AM PDT by eno_
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To: MainFrame65
"By contrast, it is almost impossible for researchers to install the Linux system on Microsoft's Xbox game console."

Gee, what a surprise! I wonder if Microsoft knows about this little problem. I'm sure their tech support people will get right on it....

I believe that their legal staff already have the matter in hand ...

25 posted on 05/26/2003 8:52:04 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: RadioAstronomer
"All of this power is driven not by military or scientific computing."

Ummmmmmmmmmmm not exactly, no.

The incredible horsepower that we all enjoy in even consumer-level PC's these days was, in fact, a direct result of the HPC (high performance computing) market. Invariably, the technical markets create the initial demand, and the resultant technologies eventually "mainstream". This has happened time......and time.......and time.......and time again, and will continue to happen. The one possible exception is your graphics card (and Radeon's are certainly not my favorite these days, and I've spent many years in the high-end graphics arena). High-end graphics card vendors do, in fact, make most of their money on the gamers. Usually, they'll maintain two code trees: one for the gaming version of their card(s), the other (supported) for workstation graphics card versions. Some (like the 3D Labs......now owned by Creative Labs......Wildcat cards) are strictly for workstation use due to their very high prices (unless you want to spend $3K for a gaming card).

So, with the possible exception of graphics cards in your example, you can thank the technical computing markets for everything else.

26 posted on 05/26/2003 9:20:40 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Lessismore
Here's an oldie.

WND Exclusive: Why Iraq's buying up Sony PlayStation 2s

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3f27852c0f.htm

27 posted on 05/26/2003 10:04:55 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: Reaganesque
From those crappy Atari's we all bought 15 years ago to this. Holy cow!

How many of those crappy joysticks did you wear out?

28 posted on 05/26/2003 10:10:36 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
Oh, one or two! LOL!
29 posted on 05/26/2003 10:18:42 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Lessismore
The center's scientists bought 100 machines, but are holding 30 in reserve, possibly for high-resolution display application.

"high-resolution display application" = Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.

30 posted on 05/26/2003 10:20:46 AM PDT by timm22
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To: RadioAstronomer
Seems like you've got one of the most advanced set-ups available to home users.
31 posted on 05/26/2003 12:28:49 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
After the rubber gave way they made escellent suction cups.
32 posted on 05/26/2003 12:30:42 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: DPB101
The Bush EO alllowed the export of any computer capable of under 190,000 MTOP (Millions of Theoretcial Operations Per Second).
This Sony Playstation cluster is capable of 500,000 MTOPS.

That hits the nail right on the head: are we going to stop exports of PS2's to China as they can all be tied together? This isn't like nascar racing where you can require restrictor plates on cars, you can shop anywhere and tie anything together in the tech world.
33 posted on 05/26/2003 12:36:29 PM PDT by lelio
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To: lelio
Sure doesn't seem like China would have even slight difficulty coming up with this sort of system--or much bigger. None of the components are exactly secret, are they?
34 posted on 05/26/2003 12:58:55 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: sparky samson
for some reason I think the processors used in the playstations are the same as in the power mac series. I believe the original playstations used motorolas RISC based chips. Anyone know for sure?

Not the Playstation but the Game Cube. The Game cube uses a Modified G3 Processor.

35 posted on 05/26/2003 1:21:50 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RightOnline
I sure dont see this kind of "PC" horsepower needed in my industry. We use workstations and very advanced servers, such as the SGI Origin 3800. My desktop PC at work is still a PIII 750 (which does the job just fine). Video and gaming is the push for horsepower in the consumer market. And yes, the 9800 is my only Radeon card. I have the Geforce4 Ti in the rest of my machines. Eventually I will exchange this one for a Geforce Fx 5900.
36 posted on 05/26/2003 1:29:49 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Bogey78O
Seems like you've got one of the most advanced set-ups available to home users.

I build them myself. It is not as expensive as most think to put together a machine like this one.

37 posted on 05/26/2003 1:32:41 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
I already have some of that. I need to upgrade the mobo from an Intel 845 with P4 2.0 GHZ with ATA133 and SDRAM to the Soyo Dragon built for RAID and AGP 8x with 333Mhz Ram and I'll be happy.

That upgrade would take care of the ATI 9800 I have since my mobo only runs at 4x. Plus the upgrade in bus speed would be nice.

Although the idea of reactivating windows cheeses me off.
38 posted on 05/26/2003 1:47:28 PM PDT by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: Bogey78O
I agree. Reactivating Windows is a pain. My MoBo is an ASUS P4C800 Deluxe. The Soyo Dragon is a great board, however, you might want to look at the ASUS. The price diff would be minimal and it would be easy to upgrade.
39 posted on 05/26/2003 1:57:34 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Lessismore
All that just to download porn faster. 8^)

j/k

40 posted on 05/26/2003 2:07:04 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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