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Human rights law passed- Gays, lesbians get protection
Cincinnati Post ^ | April 30, 2003 | Mike Rutledge

Posted on 04/30/2003 6:50:25 AM PDT by new cruelty

Covington city commissioners Tuesday unanimously supported a new human rights ordinance which extends protections to gays and lesbians. "I guess the basic question that needs to be asked is should we allow discrimination in this community?" said Commissioner Jerry Bamberger. "The answer is no."

The new law, which Mayor Butch Callery hopes will be a model for cities across the country, will take effect in about a week.

"Some day, I think the entire nation will one day wake up and realize that guess what: Equal rights is something that should have been done 100 years ago," said Commissioner Alex Edmondson.

The law's implementation will be carefully watched by the Sharonville-based Citizens for Community Values which campaigned hard against it.

CCV said it intends to help find lawyers to represent landlords or businesses which feel their rights are infringed, the group's vice president, David Miller, said after the vote. It also is forming a political action committee, which can be used to fund tri-state candidates who oppose such measures.

Covington's new law bans discrimination based on age, sexual orientation, marital status and parental status. It applies to employment, housing and public accommodations, such as hotels and restaurants.

It expands a city law which prohibited housing discrimination because of disability, gender, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, family status and place of birth.

"I'm just completely elated and pleased and so happy with the leadership of Covington," said Dean Forster of the Northern Kentucky Fairness Alliance. "The people of Covington clearly supported this ordinance, clearly made a stand that discrimination is wrong and all people should be accepted equally."

Frank Warnock, the lawyer Covington hired to refine the ordinance, explained how the law will work:

• Upon receiving a discrimination complaint, the city manager would have discretion to try to resolve the conflict before launching a city investigation into the allegation.

• If reconciliation is not possible, the manager or a designee would investigate.

• After the investigation, the manager could choose to dismiss the complaint or seek an amicable resolution. "I think that's probably one of the most important parts of this ordinance, is the idea that you're trying to educate, you are trying to correct a wrong, and one of the best ways to do that is reconciliation."

• Failing that, a hearing officer appointed by the city manager would reach findings of fact and conclusions of law, which would become an order of the human rights commission.

• Fines could range from $100-$250, and a business which willfully violated the law three or more times could lose its business license.

CCV spent $10,000 this month mailing 20,000 anti-gay booklets to Covington households and sent letters to all Catholic churches in Northern Kentucky because all five city officials who voted are Catholics.

Bamberger said the mailings did not sway him: "I didn't hear too many complaints from residents after they sent out their messages. I believe the city of Covington and the city officials here have a responsibility to deal with our own issues, and deal with our citizens."

After the vote, commissioners sat quietly during almost 30 seconds of a standing ovation.

Bamberger said his goal was that everybody be treated equally. "For the many people who opposed the ordinance -- and I received a lot of input from those people, and I appreciate that input -- I wish that they would take the time now. I wish they would review that ordinance, and look at it, and see if they still have any concerns about it."

"No one would choose to be discriminated against, no one would choose to be hated, no one would choose to be treated differently," Edmondson said. "And someday, I believe the city of Covington will have a small piece in that understanding, of creating tolerance, bridging the gap, and more importantly, allowing people to know that yes, a small city like Covington can show the entire region: Yes, we can."


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To: ladtx
Actaully that is the very same excuse that was given to my friend's Black Dad in WWII when he was denied the right to serve in an all white company. The whites did not want to shower/sleep./fight/eat etc. with their inferior
61 posted on 04/30/2003 10:38:16 AM PDT by nastypumps (nastypumps)
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To: nastypumps
Don't compare racial discrimination to this. It denigrates the civil rights movement and our citizens who were discriminated against. You will find many African-Americans become quite livid about this comparison. You're comparing apples to oranges.
62 posted on 04/30/2003 10:42:08 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: ladtx
I forgot to mention...he served in an all Black company, was wounded in combat, and came home to discrimination from people who weren't good enough to wipe the blood from his army boots.
Perhaps you would not have wished to serve with him, I mean what with him being "disruptive" and all.
63 posted on 04/30/2003 10:53:55 AM PDT by nastypumps (nastypumps)
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To: ladtx
No, I'm comparing history to history. You are seeking to explain your own predjudices.
64 posted on 04/30/2003 10:55:31 AM PDT by nastypumps (nastypumps)
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To: ladtx
By the by, since you are so knowledgeable what exactly did/have/are you doing for civil rights? I fought bigoted cops and white only gangs in the streets of America, travelled into the deep South, and later successfully battled major corporations for 35+ years for equal pay for people of all races and for employment equality for men and women.
65 posted on 04/30/2003 11:00:12 AM PDT by nastypumps (nastypumps)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
"People aren't allowed to marry their dogs either. Does that bother you too? If not who are you to judge whether a man-dog sexual relationship is better or worse than a man-man sexual relationship? Neither of these sexual relationships is for children, just for pleasure. Where are the rights of men who want to marry their dogs? They are second class citizens with **no rights**. "

LOL! No one's talking about non-human marriage. I think your argument classifies as 'strawman'? Do I have that right? LOL! No, whether you like it or not, gays and lesibans are human and under our constitution should have the same rights as heterosexuals.. something in the constitution about 'all men' being created equal and such. :)

God bless! :)
66 posted on 04/30/2003 11:05:38 AM PDT by Laurie S
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To: savedbygrace
homesexual = homosexual (but you knew that)
67 posted on 04/30/2003 11:06:17 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: nastypumps
Perhaps you would not have wished to serve with him, I mean what with him being "disruptive" and all.

Do not presume to know what I would do, you don't know me or my record. Don't try to place your own prejudices on me. My actions are proven by my military record and believe it or not, by my marriage.

68 posted on 04/30/2003 11:06:30 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: nastypumps
No, I'm comparing history to history. You are seeking to explain your own predjudices.

Once again your own presumptions and prejudices betray you.

69 posted on 04/30/2003 11:07:21 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: ladtx
What are you talking about? I asked what you are/have done in a specific area.
70 posted on 04/30/2003 11:13:00 AM PDT by nastypumps (nastypumps)
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To: nastypumps
By the by, since you are so knowledgeable what exactly did/have/are you doing for civil rights? I fought bigoted cops and white only gangs in the streets of America, travelled into the deep South, and later successfully battled major corporations for 35+ years for equal pay for people of all races and for employment equality for men and women.

For 20 years I served as a guardian of those civil rights. I've lived in the deep south and have not a racially prejudiced bone in my body. That has been taught to my three sons. I lead by example. My wife has been discriminated against because of her race, and that type of discrimination is totally different. You're barking up the wrong tree here. But then again you are trying to compare racial discrimination to life-style discrimination - again it's totally different.

71 posted on 04/30/2003 11:15:02 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: Laurie S
{We should be encouraging monogomous relationships, not trying to discriminate who can be monogomous with whom.}

What about domestic partnerships for unmarried straight couples?
72 posted on 04/30/2003 12:14:59 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: ladtx
Don't compare racial discrimination to this. It denigrates the civil rights movement and our citizens who were discriminated against. You will find many African-Americans become quite livid about this comparison. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Not comparing one kind of fruit to another kind of fruit. It's like comparing fruit to s**t.

73 posted on 04/30/2003 12:15:57 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: steve-b
Well, then, what you're saying is that is would be more accurate to equate it to religious discrimination rather than to racial discrimination. OK.

No, discriminating on the basis of behavior is not the same as religious discrimination. Our country was founded on religious freedom, not freedom to perform sodomy or other perverse "sex" acts. Throughout civilized history, societies have had restrictions ("discrimination" - which is actually not always a bad word) - concerning sexual behavior. The reason is that sexual behavior is not neutral - it can be benefical, benign, or harmful. And the promotion of and FORCED acceptance of and GLORIFICATION of and TEACHING of homosexual and other unnatural sex acts in a society ruins the society by degrading the individuals in it.

If homosexuals just wanted to do their thing in peace it would be a whole different matter. They don't. They want to change the world into their vision of utopia. And if we let them, it will be our fault.

74 posted on 04/30/2003 12:28:40 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Again, you simply confirm the analogy. Religious behaviour can be benefical, benign, or harmful (one need only consider the examples of John Paul II, the average undistinguished chruchgoer, and Osama bin Laden, respectively).
75 posted on 04/30/2003 12:38:20 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: madg
Under sexual orientation, those ordinances protect someone "based upon his or her imputed heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality."

A man whose sexual orientation is towards boys of the same sex falls under this definition and it is not a slippery slope to take that to its logical conclusion. This law would force me to rent to a man who told me he liked to have sex with boys. After all, that's his sexual orientation. When will the definition expand to include pedophiles or men who want to have sex with dogs? We're talking about a law based on sexual orientation.

Bisexuality is even harder to pin down. Let's say I own a business and fire someone, someone I've only seen with members of the opposite sex. They turn around and file a lawsuit stating I fired them because they were bisexual. It doesn't matter if I win the case or not, the damage in time and resources has been done. These types of laws are simply creating opportunities for more lawsuits and victims.

76 posted on 04/30/2003 12:59:51 PM PDT by scripter (Imagine a forum where constructive criticism was the norm.)
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To: Kuksool
We seem to be getting a lot of liberal trolls here. No matter, they'll be zotted when the 2004 election comes around.

Yeah - they just can't help themselves and show their true liberal self at some point.

77 posted on 04/30/2003 1:02:04 PM PDT by scripter (Imagine a forum where constructive criticism was the norm.)
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To: scripter
That's especially true when the election cycle is in full swing.
78 posted on 04/30/2003 1:03:59 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: madg
boys of the same sex” is redundant. Pedophilia is a paraphiliac mental illness, not a sexual orientation. Statutory rape is a crime.
Replace "Pedophilia" & "Statutory rape" with "homosexuality" with your statement. Now turn back the clock 50 years. Why was one statement wrong then, and the other correct now ?
80 posted on 04/30/2003 1:33:15 PM PDT by usastandsunited
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