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Offshore outsourcing grows
The Atlanta Business Chronicle ^ | April 18, 2003 print edition | Anya Martin

Posted on 04/21/2003 11:41:20 AM PDT by Willie Green

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To trim costs last year, Alpharetta-based MAPICS outsourced approximately 80 percent of its major application coding and development to New Delhi, India-based HCL Technologies and formed a five-year partnership.

A year later, the money saved, an estimated 35 percent compared with handling the labor in-house, helped keep the firm profitable in a troubled economy and to facilitate its $30 million acquisition of competitor Frontstep Inc. (Nasdaq: FSTP) in January.

"It's just a good model for us; what it gives me is the flexibility to scale up or down depending on the product development projects over time," said Alan MacLamroc, chief technology executive for MAPICS Inc. (Nasdaq: MAPX), a manufacturing software services provider.

MAPICS is just one of a growing number of U.S. companies outsourcing IT development and software writing overseas to save money, and the trend is expected to grow, according to industry analysts.

The North American IT outsourcing market is projected to increase from $101 billion in 2000 to $160 billion in 2005, and 26 percent of firms already using offshore services plan to double their spending in this area within the next year, according to Gartner Dataquest.

Popular locations for IT outsourcing include India, Ireland, China, Singapore, the Philip-pines, Russia and South Africa.

This trend is similar to companies sending manufacturing overseas to take advantage of cheap labor and operating costs 25 years ago, said Martin Tilson, partner and chair of the technology practice in the Atlanta offices of law firm Kilpatrick Stockton LLP.

An increasing number of noncore services are also being exported to educated offshore work forces, including IT services, product and software development, call centers, human resources, bookkeeping and even entire financial departments, he said.

"We live in an electronic global marketplace where physical borders are less constraining, so once services are moved out and working properly, short of a cataclysmic war where borders are closed, they are probably not coming back," Tilson said.

Within the next 15 years, U.S. companies will send abroad an estimated 3.3 million U.S. service industry jobs, or $136 billion in U.S. wages, according to Forrester Research.

MAPICS' outsourcing to HCL Technologies Ltd. resulted in an approximately 12 percent staff reduction, and the company also underwent a restructuring last spring after the January 2002 deal, MacLamroc said.

Fortune 500 or Fortune 1000 firms have led the trend of offshore outsourcing, with small to midsized companies accounting for just 1 percent of all outsourcing.

That number is not expected to increase to more than 10 percent by 2005, according to Forrester.

Countries compete

The number of countries offering cheap IT labor is also in flux, with new players entering the market while more established ones mature, said Stan Anderson, managing partner at TechDiscovery LLC, an Atlanta-based software development outsourcing provider, which is considering bidding jointly with Indian firms for jobs.

"There's quite a bit of competition among developing shops in cities like Hyderabad and Banglor," he said. "They're now hiring from each other in much the way it was in Silicon Valley a few years ago."

However, if Indian IT salaries are driven up too significantly, cost advantages may diminish, with U.S. companies looking to other locales for talent, Anderson said.

For example, Israeli software firms, once a low-cost alternative, are now more likely to team with U.S. companies as equal players, said Tom Glazer, president of the American-Israeli Chamber of Commerce, Southeast region.

Not all overseas outsourcing experiences offer a happy ending, and companies should ensure that projects sent offshore are clearly defined in terms of goals and technical requirements, Anderson said.

"If you can't explain it to people thousands of miles away, you're not going to have a satisfactory outcome," he said.

MAPICS evaluated potential outsourcers rigorously, checking company references with other firms who had used them and carefully evaluating each contractor's network infrastructure, MacLamroc said.

Communication

A key factor to success is ongoing management and training, as well as ongoing daily communication with the vendor, made easy by videoconferencing advances, he said.

"We have online meetings where we may be projecting the actual application screens live and walking through a design review or an actual code review," MacLamroc said.

Although security might seem like it would be a bigger concern when sending work overseas in the current climate of terrorism, MacLamroc said he felt no more worries in this area than if a project was done domestically.

"Back when there was a lot of saber-rattling between Pakistan and India, we did fairly extensive what-if planning with the vendor in case things were to spiral out of hand," he said. "But I don't think there's any significant difference with security. There are just heightened security [risks] everywhere around the world right now."

Anya Martin is a contributing writer for Atlanta Business Chronicle. Reach her at atlantatechbiz@bizjournals.com.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: freetrade; globalism; leftwingactivists; outsourcing; thebusheconomy
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To: 1stFreedom
Hehe...I belong to a Union (Job #1, strongly backed by the Dems) and it's all but priced the business completely out of the country. Yea, Stronger unions with Dem support will fix the problem...NOT! All they will suggest is more taxes and all the while digging a deeper hole for American business to try to climb out of ....Oh I see you get to that.

As for your tax idea...Why wouldn't a business just up and leave the country completely. Drop a 45% tax on me and I'd either fold or be outa here.

As for "getting Americans to buy American products". What makes you think I don't now...Not that Joe Six Pack gives even gives a flying duck about being "made in America" anyway.

Go ahead and concede "blue collar" if you like. Me, I have yet to give up.
61 posted on 04/21/2003 2:44:56 PM PDT by kissthis
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To: thetruckster
That's why if you have a choice between a supposed debate involving Rep. vs. Dems and pro wrestling, go with the wrestling because there's more realism.
62 posted on 04/21/2003 2:45:02 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: 1stFreedom
The companies may indeed be saving themselves money by outsourcing overseas, but they are directly harming the economy. So, they are harming you, therefore they are harming the economy -- is that it?
63 posted on 04/21/2003 2:45:06 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: 1stFreedom
No, it's foolish to force American firms to use labor that will make their production costs so high that they are unable to sell their product, even domestically. Do that and the firms who compete with foreign corporations will flod faster than a French Infantry Division.
64 posted on 04/21/2003 2:46:20 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: 1stFreedom
The pubbies need to understand that the economy won't get better if new jobs are offshore and not here. It takes people spending money to get companies to hire and produce more goods.

Geez, I feel so stupid now, having spent all that time to learn some economics: I should've asked you. It's all right there, in two sentences!

65 posted on 04/21/2003 2:46:27 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: 1stFreedom
Well, you are overpaid and put the blame on Bush.

Perhaps, before you draw any conclusions, you should buy a book --- I mean other than a Java manual.

66 posted on 04/21/2003 2:47:46 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Willie Green
I have been writing computer systems for 20 years. I worked 5 months out of the last 18. Computer programming is redundant/repetitive, boring and intellectually uninteresting. Basically as interesting as cleaning a toilet or digging a ditch. Gathering requirements and writing specifications for the programmers in Moscow is where the future is. Being able to write and communicate technical matters is going to be the coin of the realm. Within the next 10 years, no Americans will be writing computer programs. The world is changing, change with it. Momma never told me there would be days like these, strange days indeed.

67 posted on 04/21/2003 2:48:05 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: TopQuark
If they all do it, they're harming the economy. Unless you think wage slaves in India will buy products and services in America. The corporations are doing this to shore up their bottom line. In 'farming' terms we'd call this 'eating the seed corn'. It's the step just before starvation. With all the Americans unemployed or underemployed because all the good jobs are gone, who will be buying stuff?

Make no mistake, these multinational companies care little for 'America' or its economy in and of itself. If they can make money they will. If America hurts...too bad.

68 posted on 04/21/2003 2:48:16 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: FoxPro
They're outsourcing technical writing hand over fist. Better jump to the next spot son.
69 posted on 04/21/2003 2:49:16 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 1stFreedom
However, the "free market" is an utter failure if this market is on a global scale. It may benefit the corporation, but it hurts the economy. If it hurts the economy, it's bound to come back and bite the corporations in the rear.

The trick is that penalty is disperesed over many corporations. It pays for the individual corporation to hurt others since the individual gain is larger than individual damage.

But the added damage is greater, that is why the coordination for common good is needed and this is the proper job for the government - to secure the common welfare of the nation.

70 posted on 04/21/2003 2:49:28 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: sharktrager
As for standard of living and taxes, that is irrelevant. The value of labor is not relative to anything more than what it is capable of producing. If I can get someone in India to do the same job as an American, but at 25% the American's cost, the American is overpriced.

It's amazing how America ever thrived and became the most prosperous country on earth PRIOR to the era of so-called Global "Free Trade"--which isn't Free, isn't bilateral and certainly isn't practiced anywhere in the world EXCEPT in America.

What is completely lost on you is that many of our so-called trading partners, particularly in Asia, practice systematic "predatory" capitalism that is intentionally designed with the objective of putting the host trading partner (read America) "out of business" in the targeted industry. These countries will go to any length including using child labor, slave labor, government set wages, subsidies, waiver of all state regulations to enable their companies to undercut our companies and gain monopolies in the selected industry.

In other words, they do not play by accepted Western Standards of Commerce, which rests heavily with the notion of businesses operating independently from direct government intervention and management. All we are doing by allowing “Most Favored Nation” status to China is rewarding them for their human rights atrocities and black market capitalism that they use to take over one American industry after another.

Perhaps when our military is forced to contract with China for most of its hardware and machinery needs--because our manufacturing infrastructure is GONE--you will wake up to what is happening.

71 posted on 04/21/2003 2:49:46 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: 1stFreedom
I will not vote for Bush or pubbies in the next round of elections if they do not stop this outsourcing problem.

Why is is a problem: it's great for me, I save on lower prices because I do not have to pay your inflated salary that you received in 1990s.

Vote for whomever you want, just do not say that you are a conservative.

72 posted on 04/21/2003 2:49:49 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
>>Well, you are overpaid and put the blame on Bush.

lol. You have no idea what I earn (or don't earn). As far as the blame goes, the Corporations doing the outsourcing are to blam. It's Bush's watch, however, and he shares blame if he just sit's on his duff about this.


>>Perhaps, before you draw any conclusions, you should buy a book --- I mean other than a Java manual.

Now, who is drawing conclusions here? Who concluded I was over paid?

Your response, is well, a joke.
73 posted on 04/21/2003 2:50:38 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: sharktrager
The firms involved are hardly 'American'. They're multinational. The dry cleaners down the street is an 'American' firm. Ford is not.
74 posted on 04/21/2003 2:51:17 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: TopQuark
>>Why is is a problem: it's great for me, I save on lower prices because I do not have to pay your inflated salary that you received in 1990s.

No, you don't. Companies are not going to pass the savings on to you. In a perfect world they would, but this ain't utopia Toto.

>>Vote for whomever you want, just do not say that you are a conservative.

I sure am conservative. YOu can disagree all you want, but I hardly think you are the final judge on what conservative is.
75 posted on 04/21/2003 2:53:08 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: Black Agnes
What would you advise receiving training to do? Inquiring minds want to know.

It depends how much income you must make. If you can get by with less, get the job which cannot be exported for example computer service which must be done locally is good (if your background is in computers). If you have some medical/science background look into hospitals - people get sick locally. Etc, etc ...

If you know languages and do not have family look for work abroad :)

76 posted on 04/21/2003 2:53:44 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: 1stFreedom
Exactly. I mean really, I feel so *safe* knowing that critical information and financial infrastructure in this country is either run by people with little or no loyalty to my country or run completely out of the country. Geeze, what was I thinking?!
77 posted on 04/21/2003 2:54:29 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 1stFreedom
Nike moved its manufacturing overseas and probably saved by a factor of *fifty* on their labor costs. Did you see Nikes get any cheaper in America?
78 posted on 04/21/2003 2:55:26 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: sharktrager
>>No, it's foolish to force American firms to use labor that will make their production costs so high that they are unable to sell their product, even domestically. Do that and the firms who compete with foreign corporations will flod faster than a French Infantry Division.

You are confusing something here. The topic really isn't about producing here. It's really about white collar jobs. There are no production costs involved with white collar jobs.

Corporations are not going to pass on the savings to you.
79 posted on 04/21/2003 2:57:05 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: StoneColdTaxHater
A much easier way to save enough money to make it competitive would be to fire the CEO and the upper management who are making 100 million a year. It's funny to see our CEO's at work, The CEO of Toyota last year made about 1 million dollars while the CEO of GM and Ford each pocketed 20 or 30 mil a piece and guess who builds the better car and has better sales?
80 posted on 04/21/2003 2:57:13 PM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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