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Offshore outsourcing grows
The Atlanta Business Chronicle ^ | April 18, 2003 print edition | Anya Martin

Posted on 04/21/2003 11:41:20 AM PDT by Willie Green

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To trim costs last year, Alpharetta-based MAPICS outsourced approximately 80 percent of its major application coding and development to New Delhi, India-based HCL Technologies and formed a five-year partnership.

A year later, the money saved, an estimated 35 percent compared with handling the labor in-house, helped keep the firm profitable in a troubled economy and to facilitate its $30 million acquisition of competitor Frontstep Inc. (Nasdaq: FSTP) in January.

"It's just a good model for us; what it gives me is the flexibility to scale up or down depending on the product development projects over time," said Alan MacLamroc, chief technology executive for MAPICS Inc. (Nasdaq: MAPX), a manufacturing software services provider.

MAPICS is just one of a growing number of U.S. companies outsourcing IT development and software writing overseas to save money, and the trend is expected to grow, according to industry analysts.

The North American IT outsourcing market is projected to increase from $101 billion in 2000 to $160 billion in 2005, and 26 percent of firms already using offshore services plan to double their spending in this area within the next year, according to Gartner Dataquest.

Popular locations for IT outsourcing include India, Ireland, China, Singapore, the Philip-pines, Russia and South Africa.

This trend is similar to companies sending manufacturing overseas to take advantage of cheap labor and operating costs 25 years ago, said Martin Tilson, partner and chair of the technology practice in the Atlanta offices of law firm Kilpatrick Stockton LLP.

An increasing number of noncore services are also being exported to educated offshore work forces, including IT services, product and software development, call centers, human resources, bookkeeping and even entire financial departments, he said.

"We live in an electronic global marketplace where physical borders are less constraining, so once services are moved out and working properly, short of a cataclysmic war where borders are closed, they are probably not coming back," Tilson said.

Within the next 15 years, U.S. companies will send abroad an estimated 3.3 million U.S. service industry jobs, or $136 billion in U.S. wages, according to Forrester Research.

MAPICS' outsourcing to HCL Technologies Ltd. resulted in an approximately 12 percent staff reduction, and the company also underwent a restructuring last spring after the January 2002 deal, MacLamroc said.

Fortune 500 or Fortune 1000 firms have led the trend of offshore outsourcing, with small to midsized companies accounting for just 1 percent of all outsourcing.

That number is not expected to increase to more than 10 percent by 2005, according to Forrester.

Countries compete

The number of countries offering cheap IT labor is also in flux, with new players entering the market while more established ones mature, said Stan Anderson, managing partner at TechDiscovery LLC, an Atlanta-based software development outsourcing provider, which is considering bidding jointly with Indian firms for jobs.

"There's quite a bit of competition among developing shops in cities like Hyderabad and Banglor," he said. "They're now hiring from each other in much the way it was in Silicon Valley a few years ago."

However, if Indian IT salaries are driven up too significantly, cost advantages may diminish, with U.S. companies looking to other locales for talent, Anderson said.

For example, Israeli software firms, once a low-cost alternative, are now more likely to team with U.S. companies as equal players, said Tom Glazer, president of the American-Israeli Chamber of Commerce, Southeast region.

Not all overseas outsourcing experiences offer a happy ending, and companies should ensure that projects sent offshore are clearly defined in terms of goals and technical requirements, Anderson said.

"If you can't explain it to people thousands of miles away, you're not going to have a satisfactory outcome," he said.

MAPICS evaluated potential outsourcers rigorously, checking company references with other firms who had used them and carefully evaluating each contractor's network infrastructure, MacLamroc said.

Communication

A key factor to success is ongoing management and training, as well as ongoing daily communication with the vendor, made easy by videoconferencing advances, he said.

"We have online meetings where we may be projecting the actual application screens live and walking through a design review or an actual code review," MacLamroc said.

Although security might seem like it would be a bigger concern when sending work overseas in the current climate of terrorism, MacLamroc said he felt no more worries in this area than if a project was done domestically.

"Back when there was a lot of saber-rattling between Pakistan and India, we did fairly extensive what-if planning with the vendor in case things were to spiral out of hand," he said. "But I don't think there's any significant difference with security. There are just heightened security [risks] everywhere around the world right now."

Anya Martin is a contributing writer for Atlanta Business Chronicle. Reach her at atlantatechbiz@bizjournals.com.


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To: MonroeDNA
Communists depend on class envy, and they start with unions.

Not really. Lenin have seen trade-unionism as a dangerous competition. He did not want improvements, concessions from the owning class and self-organisation of workers. We wanted crisis, revolution and the dictatorship of the party.

You need to do some reading.

221 posted on 04/22/2003 4:28:03 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: WRhine
"And the tax I hate the most is property taxes. A tax one pays to the state for the right to "technically" own property. In the truest sense, we just rent property from the state."

And you know what most people don't realize; that most major corporations pay ZERO in property taxes in reality. Many states and municipalities give a company a pass on paying the property tax to acquire the employment base. Yet if I decide to own more than one piece of property, especially if the second one is in another state, I'm penalized by having to pay a higher rate usually. I guess the First Eternal Rule shall forever be the great secret. Too bad. If people would turn off "American Idol" and actually pay attention to where their income goes, they might get upset about all the waste by the state and Federal bureaucrats.
222 posted on 04/22/2003 4:29:27 AM PDT by Beck_isright ("We created underarm deodorant, and the French turned that down too."-Mitch Daniels, Budget Director)
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To: A. Pole
" I am sorry, only God is perfect."

God is an economic system of trade? That's news to me.

"You fell into the trap of free market fundamentalist cult."

You prefer socialism or modified socialism? Then perhaps you really do enjoy surrendering your freedoms to the state. You belong on DU then if so. The "cult" you refer to is the purest form of freedom; the ability to earn a living and trade labor for pay OR create goods and services and sell them. It's been around for about 10,000 years if you haven't noticed. It's only ruined when idiots decide that they need the government to manipulate the system for political purposes.
223 posted on 04/22/2003 4:32:12 AM PDT by Beck_isright ("We created underarm deodorant, and the French turned that down too."-Mitch Daniels, Budget Director)
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To: sharktrager
You sir, are a 100% correct.
224 posted on 04/22/2003 4:43:18 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: FoxPro
Another truism. Programming is dead. If you want to program, move to India, Israel or Russia. The real deal is project management.
225 posted on 04/22/2003 4:52:05 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: TopQuark
I guess on every outsourcing thread, I point out that it's our education system that is to blame. At some point, we as a nation decided that an MBA is worth more than an Engineering degree. That mindset is going to cost us dearly. Kids do not want to learn math, science, etc. They want an MBA, and a "rich" lifestyle without having to learn that geekie stuff.
226 posted on 04/22/2003 5:01:25 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: TopQuark
Another fine rebuttal.
227 posted on 04/22/2003 5:03:27 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: 1stFreedom
That $300, if I even have it, may just go to the democrats.

And when they come for your guns and your SUV, just smile really big.

228 posted on 04/22/2003 5:04:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Black Agnes
Listen,for you those wages might be slave wages. For an Indian, his $8/hr in PPE terms is really $32/hr. Note that India is fourth in PPE term being US, Japan, China.
229 posted on 04/22/2003 5:06:34 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: Proud_texan
I've been in IT since the days it was DP and the problem is oversupply. It was a hot field in the late 90s and a lot of people got into it that should never had been there. They were clods, stupid and made huge bucks. They had no talent for the field, they were simply a warm body.

I can't tell you how many IT people I met in the 90's who "weren't technical". We ended up with more project managers than programmers. They won't the big bucks but they can't code. They deserve to get cut loose.

230 posted on 04/22/2003 5:06:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: USMMA_83
I guess on every outsourcing thread, I point out that it's our education system that is to blame. At some point, we as a nation decided that an MBA is worth more than an Engineering degree. That mindset is going to cost us dearly. Kids do not want to learn math, science, etc. They want an MBA, and a "rich" lifestyle without having to learn that geekie stuff

Unfortunately, kids are making a rational decision. I love math and science but if you want to pay mortgage or get laid a lot, MBA is the way to go.

231 posted on 04/22/2003 5:13:21 AM PDT by Feldkurat_Katz
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To: TopQuark
Yes, the market is the market - you can't put bounderies around it. That's why Boeing is doing fantastic business. It only has one real competitor. Nobody is going to buy an Indian or Chinese jet. That's why Boeing can ask for and get $100 million per jet.
232 posted on 04/22/2003 5:15:40 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: samuel_adams_us
You are a NUT! There should be a safehouse for you!!
233 posted on 04/22/2003 5:22:35 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: MonroeDNA
Communists depend on class envy, and they start with unions

The way it worked historically was that rather than starting with unions, Communists tried to infiltrate exisiting unions.

Don't forget that Ronald Reagan was a union activist (in the Actors' Guild.) And AFL-CIO's president Lane Kirkland worked closely with Reagan's administration to provide financial support for Poland's Solidarity.

234 posted on 04/22/2003 5:25:32 AM PDT by Feldkurat_Katz
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To: TopQuark
Well, another insightful comment. Last year when India and Pakistan were on the edge, and India was about to destroy Pakistan, guess who stopped the war? Bush and Co. Nope, it was Bill Gates and the CEO of GE. They called the Indian prime minster, and informed him of the cost of war and cost of doing business with the US.
235 posted on 04/22/2003 5:27:09 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: Beck_isright
I'd like to take a shot at this. De-regulate further (something we'll never live to see). Make all payroll expenses below the board level a 100% tax deductible expense. No payroll tax, no income tax liability and restricted to American citizens only. Thus there would be incentives to stay in the USA and hire American employees only. Of course, that would require imagination and cunning and neither political party has anyone with the brass ones to do anything like this.

Exactly, however make this 100% deductability apply ONLY to American citizens hired. Of course this will never happen.

I get so tired of hearing that American workers are over priced so they can't compete, this would be 1 way of leveling the playing field.

236 posted on 04/22/2003 5:29:48 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: RockyMtnMan
Do you want that heart rate monitor programmed by a guy in Bangalor making 5k a year or a guy in Boston that makes 120k a year.

It all depends -- if the guy from Boston was a recent product of our public school system, I might think twice.

237 posted on 04/22/2003 5:31:27 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I like PEACE ...and there's nothing more peaceful than a dead terrorist!)
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To: 1stFreedom
"Corporations are not going to pass on the savings to you."

Correct, they'll inflate their pockets with astronomical salaries... Joe consumer sees only a tiny benifit in cost reduction from the outsourcing of labor; while the CEO making the decision to ship your job overseas gets a multimillion dollar raise.

238 posted on 04/22/2003 5:35:35 AM PDT by m18436572
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To: YankeeReb
"I get so tired of hearing that American workers are over priced so they can't compete, this would be 1 way of leveling the playing field."

I happen to concur. It's the only way to level the playing field, but it would require voting out every single existing politician in office. But it's a nice fantasy plan.
239 posted on 04/22/2003 5:40:59 AM PDT by Beck_isright ("We created underarm deodorant, and the French turned that down too."-Mitch Daniels, Budget Director)
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To: Willie Green
bump
240 posted on 04/22/2003 5:42:04 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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