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Ron Silver: "The end of my days as a prominent liberal"
C-Span | 4/12/03 | Scothia

Posted on 04/12/2003 10:49:52 AM PDT by Scothia

Actor Ron Silver, addressing the Pro-USA and pro-troops rally in Washington DC today and responding to his introduction as a "prominent linberal" said "I think you've seen the end of my days as prominent liberal."

"Peace at what risk? Peace on whose terms? Peace for how long?" he went on. "There are worse things than war. People who think nothing is worth a war is worse."

The enthusiastic crowd cheered as Silver evoked Elie Wiesel and the lessons learned through the horrors of Nazi Germany, enunciating the reasons for America's humanitarian intervention in Iraq.

Following Silver, Linda Chavez remarked that she herself was a former liberal, and invited Silver to join the conservative ranks. "We ought to have a support group for ex-liberals," she said, laughing.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: actors; april12reports; hollywood; liberals; ron; ronsilver; silver; supportourtroops
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To: Scothia
Wow. Miracles do happen. There is hope. *sigh and a smile*
21 posted on 04/12/2003 11:10:09 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Democrats... united as ever in opportunism and error.)
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To: Scothia
"We ought to have a support group for ex-liberals,"

I disagree. There are so many "ex-liberals" in the conservative movement, I suggest that we retake the label "liberal" and reclaim our rightful place championing the true cause of real liberal democracy as opposed to the bloody socialist madness pushed by them. We truly support freedom, equality, opportunity, justice. They don't. So called "liberals," such as Teddy Kennedy, Tom Daschle and Hillory Clinton have hijacked those ideals, claimed them for themselves, and use them for one purpose only, to enrich themselves.

The definition of "Conservative" is someone who seeks to maintain the status quo. That is clearly not us. That is the definition of the Democrat party now. They wish to maintain and increase the bueracracies and power base built up over the last 75 years, regardless of the harm that it does to real poeople, to freedom and to human progress.

I am a real liberal, in the true sense of the word, just as Jefferson, Franklin, Washington and Adams were. I am a progressive, just as Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt were. I am an advocate of doing new things to enhance the freedom and power of the people, instead of the government, just like Ronald Reagan and George W Bush have done throughout their Presidencies. I call myself a conservative in casual conversation so that I will conform to the news media's twisted definitions and fit into their pre-defined voting block. I will do so no longer.

let's start calling the so-called liberals what they truly are: fascists and socialists. The concept of fascism derives from the Roman tradition that the person, in the Roman Senate, who holds the bundle of sticks (the "fasci") is at that moment in power, in control of the Senate and controls what happens. Fascists believe that they are in the right because they have the power. That, I think, sums up Bill and Hill and little Tommy. Remember, NAZI is an acronym for the National Socialist party. Saddam's Ba'athist's are (were)Islamic Socialists. We are truly in a battle between civilaziation and barbarism.

Let's take back our language and deny them their Orwellian definitions of who is who and what is what.

22 posted on 04/12/2003 11:11:49 AM PDT by Phsstpok
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To: dfwgator
well, as an ex-liberal myself--i am very happy for him... plus i like him as an actor--he usually plays someone i can't stand, and he's very good at it... i wonder if that will change since his politics probably had something to do with why i could not stand him in certain roles...
23 posted on 04/12/2003 11:12:50 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Enterprise
Sorry, but this "they're anti-Semitic" screed is getting tiresome.

There is very little anti-Semitism in the United States outside of Hillary Clinton.

And the PALEO-CONS like PJB seem to be more amenable to that label than anyone else.

I guess I'm tired of the "anti-Semitic" label being applied to any- and everyone who does not think that everything Israel does is perfectly okay.
24 posted on 04/12/2003 11:16:12 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Paul Atreides
Let's hope this is just the tip of the iceberg for Hollywood. I won't hold my breath, but you never can tell.

Hold on now, there are some even we tolerant conservatives don't want to be associated with, such as Streisand, Baldwin, Asner, Sarandon and their ilk, we can only stoop so low. :-}

25 posted on 04/12/2003 11:17:46 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Scothia
He has "GROWN".
26 posted on 04/12/2003 11:20:16 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Illbay
I don't approve of every thing my country does and the same goes for Israel.I believe that Israel has a right to defend itself and the right to exist.
27 posted on 04/12/2003 11:20:28 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Scothia
dont s##t yourself. its called which way the prevailing winds are blowing!
28 posted on 04/12/2003 11:20:48 AM PDT by SCARED
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To: randita
A substantial number of the anti-war crowd are anti-Semitic, so the example of Nazi Germany makes no impression on them.

Actually, a substantial number are Secular Jews rather than Believing Jews. They regard their Jewishness as a kind of non-demanding social club, like the Shriners or Freemasons, with the God of Moses as only a faint memory or allegorical reference. Secular Jews resent Israel because it is an historical reminder that Jews are called by a living God to be a chosen people. They resent Christianity not because they perceive Christianity as anti-Semitic, but because Christianity has at its core the worship of the God of Moses through a Jewish messiah.

Into the category of Secular Jews I would place the New York Times and a lot of others in the liberal US news and entertainment media. Of course, there are Secular Jews who are conservative, as well, but in their case they have a certain nostalgia for the God of Moses -- though not outright belief.

29 posted on 04/12/2003 11:21:17 AM PDT by JoeSchem
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To: Scothia
Another ex-liberal checking in here. But, since I'm not anybody well-known, not too many people cared! But I'm a whole lot happier. Intellectual honesty is a wonderful thing.
30 posted on 04/12/2003 11:22:53 AM PDT by .38sw
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To: MEG33
My thoughts are, though, that I can condemn Teddy Kennedy, for example, and not be "anti-Catholic."

But if I condemn "Bibi" Netanyahu because of his staunch support of Jonathan Pollard, I am readily called "anti-Semitic." The label has become meaningless through overuse.

Sure Israel can defend herself. For that matter, so could Iraq.
31 posted on 04/12/2003 11:24:28 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Are you saying that the Anti-war crowd is in fact pro Israel, and pro-jewish?
32 posted on 04/12/2003 11:24:44 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise
It still is astounds me how these people can be anti-semitic, and then turn right around and accuse Republicans and conservatives of being Nazis. This a huge disconnect.

It shouldn't. Look through the archives of lamestream news from the time Hitler took power in 1933 almost until he invaded Poland-- it is full of accounts of this natty dresser, the lady's man, his sophisticated tastes in classical music, his revitilazation of the German economy while the rest of the world groaned under the weight of the great depression, his fine manners and his health-conscious non-smoking. You would've thought the guy was a reincarnation of George Washington, just as the press painted Fidel Castro and Ho Chi Minh three decades later.

33 posted on 04/12/2003 11:27:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Scothia
see its never to late to leave the dark side
34 posted on 04/12/2003 11:27:49 AM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Moose4
hey why not give him an honorary FR membership?
35 posted on 04/12/2003 11:28:09 AM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Timesink
Sir, you are now off my list of "boycotted" actors! I am glad, because you are a good actor (and make especially good villains!)

Welcome to the RIGHT, in more ways than one.

36 posted on 04/12/2003 11:28:12 AM PDT by LS
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To: Illbay
Semi-anti-Semite semantics?

Do you work for Symantec?
37 posted on 04/12/2003 11:29:05 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Scothia
As a harsh critic of Mr. Silver in the past, I want to say now; that it takes a real man to admit he was wrong. Kudos to you Mr. Silver. Welcome to the side of light.
38 posted on 04/12/2003 11:30:38 AM PDT by Search4Truth (Liberalism, Feminism, and Political Correctness are against the laws of Nature and God.)
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To: Illbay
I agree but Israel and Iraq are hardly comparable governments!Jonathon Pollard was a spy and that's that with me.
39 posted on 04/12/2003 11:30:58 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Scothia
I'm in Shock and Awe
40 posted on 04/12/2003 11:31:02 AM PDT by ChadGore (288,007,154 Americans did not protest the war today)
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