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Medical Experts Speak Out -- SARS Virus Could Be Man-Made and Possibly a Bio-Weapon
News Pundit.net ^ | 4/11/2003 | Douglas Oliver

Posted on 04/11/2003 4:47:04 PM PDT by ex-Texan

Medical Experts Speak Out -- SARS Virus Could Be Man-Made and Possibly a Bio-Weapon

This was the breaking news late yesterday. News 24 was reporting that top Russian medical experts were lining up to express concern about the virus. A brief excerpt:

Nikolai Filatov, head of Moscow's epidemiological services, told the Gazeta daily that he thought the pneumonia was man-made because "there is no vaccine for this virus, its make-up is unclear, it has not been very widespread and the population is not immune to it." * * *

The virus, according to academy of medecine member Sergei Kolesnikov, is a cocktail of mumps and measles, whose mix could never appear in nature. * * *

"We can only get that in a laboratory," he told a conference in the Siberian city of Irkutsk, quoted by RIA Novosti news agency.

It may have spread because of an "accidental leak" from a lab, he added. * * *

Another top level Russian scientist expressed similar views today. Dr. Sergei Kolesnikov, Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences was quoted in En Rian.ru that he believed the virus if atypical pneumonia has been created artificially in a laboratory "possibly as a bacteriological weapon."

He stated his opinion in that regard in news conference in Irkutsk (Siberia) on Thursday.

* * * the virus of atypical pneumonia is a synthesis of two viruses (of measles and infectious parotiditis or mumps), the natural compound of which is impossible. This can be done only in a laboratory, the academician is convinced. He also said that in creating bacteriological weapons a protective anti-viral vaccine is, as a rule, worked out at the same time. Therefore, the scientist believes, a medicine for atypical pneumonia may soon appear. He does not exclude that the spread of the virus could have begun accidentally, as a result of "an unsanctioned leakage" from a laboratory. * * *

Dr. Kolesnikov is a famous scientist with international standing. He served as a former co-President of the IPPNW and as member of the Russian Duma. He has published many international scientific papers. A brief biography may be found here.

ABC News.au had a nearly identical report up on its web site today. They are reporting that the SARS "Mystery Virus" may well be a Chinese bio-weapon that accidently escaped the laboratory.

NewsPundit is following the lead of the Russians:

I have been biting my tongue for the last week and trying to quiet the bio-weapon rumors that have been floating around. But now I believe the "cat has been let out of the bag." All of the evidence is pointing to a man-made virus. Russian medical science may be years ahead of the U.S., U.K. in its experience with such things. So I reluctantly follow their lead.

The Chinese have a lot of explaining to do. The virus is now "out there" . . . just like the "Truth is Out There ...." One thing they can explain: Was this a test of the World Heath Organization, or how quickly the U.S. is capable of reacting to a bio-weapon ?

(Excerpt) Read more at newspundit.net ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: biologicalweapon; bioweapon; paramyxovirus; sars; vaccine; virus
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1 posted on 04/11/2003 4:47:04 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
Not a very effective bio-weapon, if it is one - what, a 4% death rate?
2 posted on 04/11/2003 4:50:06 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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3 posted on 04/11/2003 4:50:42 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: mvpel
The best weapons are not necessarily those that kill. If, for instance, you infect a lot of troops, they cannot fight because they would be too sick, and scarce resources and numerous other personnel would be tied up in caring for them.

I've been worried since the start of the War about this possibility with our troops in Iraq. I don't think it is a coincidence that SARS appeared at about the same time as the start of the War.

4 posted on 04/11/2003 5:00:13 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty
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To: mvpel
It is more complicated. The death rate almost doubles (~1.8 per decade) for
every decade of age of the patient.

It is a very serious infection for those over 40.

5 posted on 04/11/2003 5:00:18 PM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: mvpel
Oh I don't know...

It is obvious that it has the power to cause a lot of damage. Just look at the chaos in Asia it has caused and the economic damage.

I have had a hunch about this for a while now. It seems to me that the Chinese were/are acting just a bit too paranoid (even for them) for this bug to be random happenstance.

I think it was being researched as a bio-weapon and escaped due to carelessness. If true, the Chi-Coms are going to have major egg on their faces and we all know how they react when that is a possibility.
6 posted on 04/11/2003 5:00:26 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: ex-Texan
Sorry, but yesterday the NIH identified it as a variant Coronavirus (common cold). New variants turn up regularly, that's why we don't have a vaccine for the common cold, there is too fast a change in the mix.

This one is more lethal than any in years, but still less than 5% lethality.
That is way too low for a bioweapon.

So9

7 posted on 04/11/2003 5:01:17 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: mvpel
Oh I don't know...

It is obvious that it has the power to cause a lot of damage. Just look at the chaos in Asia it has caused and the economic damage.

I have had a hunch about this for a while now. It seems to me that the Chinese were/are acting just a bit too paranoid (even for them) for this bug to be random happenstance.

I think it was being researched as a bio-weapon and escaped due to carelessness. If true, the Chi-Coms are going to have major egg on their faces and we all know how they react when that is a possibility.
8 posted on 04/11/2003 5:01:40 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: mvpel
Was this a test of the World Heath Organization, or how quickly the U.S. is capable of reacting to a bio-weapon ? ....

It was just a test -- I believe.

The death rate for the Spanish flu was only 2.5% but it killed over 20 million people. The virus may mutate as it ages and develops. At the end of the cycle with Spanish it had mutated and was killing 28% ...

The Chinese might even kill off 20% of their population with SARS ... which might be a good thing for them. They have far too many people.

9 posted on 04/11/2003 5:04:27 PM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: mvpel
6.7% in Singapore and they have taken the most drastic measures so far.
10 posted on 04/11/2003 5:06:06 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: mvpel
Yes, but definitely a low-tech delivery system. Just infect a few people and send them out in the world.
11 posted on 04/11/2003 5:06:48 PM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: ex-Texan
It was just a test -- I believe.

But why in Hong Kong?

12 posted on 04/11/2003 5:06:49 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: ex-Texan
Weird article.

"there is no vaccine for this virus"

I am under the impression that there is no vaccine for any virus.

13 posted on 04/11/2003 5:07:03 PM PDT by Sam Cree (HHD)
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To: ex-Texan
""there is no vaccine for this virus, its make-up is unclear, it has not been very widespread and the population is not immune to it." * * *

Hmmm- let me think about this for a minute. I guess that, by these criteria, EVERY new strain of "Flu" is a bioweapon, too? And how about colds? No vaccines, little immunity... This is the reasoning of a High School sophomore- in a mediocre school.

14 posted on 04/11/2003 5:07:30 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: Diogenesis
Could you please point me to the source of this (and maybe other) statistic?
15 posted on 04/11/2003 5:10:10 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: ex-Texan
The virus, ...is a cocktail of mumps and measles, whose mix could never appear in nature. ..."We can only get that in a laboratory.... It may have spread because of an "accidental leak" from a lab, he added.

I doubt that it was accidental. If true, it was leaked intentionally to test its effectiveness. What is a few deaths to an over-populated, communist country?

16 posted on 04/11/2003 5:10:26 PM PDT by Jemian (Walk softly and drop a REALLY BIG bomb.)
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To: Sam Cree
I am under the impression that there is no vaccine for any virus.

Good grief. What do you think "flu shots" are for? Or measles vaccinations? Or smallpox?

Perhaps you're thinking that antibiotics don't work against viruses, which would be true.

17 posted on 04/11/2003 5:11:35 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Sam Cree
"I am under the impression that there is no vaccine for any virus."

Well, it's not THAT bad. ow about Polio vaccine, Flu vaccines, Hepatitis A and B vaccines, Yellow Fever vaccine- Measles, Mumps, Rubella, to name a few.

It is true that some viruses mutate so quickly that it is almost impossible to make an effective vaccine against them- but many don't.

18 posted on 04/11/2003 5:11:38 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: Dog Gone; RANGERAIRBORNE
"Perhaps you're thinking that antibiotics don't work against viruses, which would be true."

Yeah, that is what I was thinking.

Thanks, guys, that's a relief.

19 posted on 04/11/2003 5:14:07 PM PDT by Sam Cree (HHD)
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To: ex-Texan
I doubt it is a bio weapon. Even if it is a serious item to those over 40, and there is a death rate progression, those of 90 aren't too worried. The articles I read indicates the disease is no worse than a politically correctly named Asian Flu and it is a cross between Clamydia and Pneumonia. Who knows what they were eating in Hong Kong?
20 posted on 04/11/2003 5:22:53 PM PDT by Henchman
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