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Credit military success to Clinton's policies, not Bush's defense spending spree
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | April 10, 2003 | Matt Miller

Posted on 04/10/2003 12:46:45 PM PDT by baseballmom

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To: baseballmom
This just in. Bill Clinton takes credit for America's victory in the Revolutionary War, WWI, and WWII. He also claims that because of his genius, slavery in America was abolished. He also claims (and his worshippers believe) that he had a hand in delivering the Israelites from Egypt and parting the Red Sea. Other things that Clinton claims to have done:

Closed the mouths of the lions so they didn't harm Daniel.
Helped the Indians destroy Custer's 7th Cavalry.
Helped stop the Spanish Inquisition.
Gave advice to great conquerors like Alexander and Napoleon.
Designed the Tower of Babel (he amits that was a miscalculation).
Was the mentor of da Vinci.
Was the first to come up with the theory that the sun is the center of the Solar System (he claims that Copernicus stole the theory from him which is why Copernicus gets the credit).
Invented the wheel
And he's done so much more!!!

Clinton is a megalomaniac such as the world has never seen! And it's too bad that there are so many people out there who truly believe Clinton has done more than he actually did. Or believe that Clinton did things that he never did. I guess it's called living in La-La Land.

61 posted on 04/10/2003 1:37:52 PM PDT by Luna (Evil will not triumph...God is at the helm)
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To: mystery-ak
Wasn't there a point in Afghanistan when we ran short of smart bombs becasuse the Clinton administration hadn't made production a priority?
62 posted on 04/10/2003 1:38:15 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: baseballmom
Here are some of Clinton's military policies

Don't ask Don't tell:

Help start the worst military morale problem we have seen in recent history.

Up or out:

Military personnel not making a certain grade/rank within a certain number of years were forced out of the military. Military personnel from sergeants on up were paid to leave. The up or out policy damaged small unit leadership by getting rid of experienced NCO's.

Sexual Harrassment policy:

Created an avenue for worhtless subordinates to destroy the careers of senior enlisted and officers in retribution for punishment or percieved slights.

63 posted on 04/10/2003 1:38:30 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: mabelkitty
How dare people laugh at the dramatic and forward looking
Clinton reforms of the US military.

It is now accepted that the black beret for the Army and the new logo for the Air Force boosted the self esteem of our troops leading to victory.

The full effects of the C.O.O. program have yet to be evaluated.
64 posted on 04/10/2003 1:39:34 PM PDT by ijcr
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To: baseballmom
Well here are the DNC's new talking points. I first heard it from one of the beltway boys, then Alan Combs, and now here.

And yes, some idiots will swallow anything.
65 posted on 04/10/2003 1:40:18 PM PDT by Samwise (Thank God for our troops!)
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To: raybo
I was close to getting out but I didn't want that idiot's signature on my retirement papers.

I retired in 1997. I have Clinton's signature on my Retirement/Discharge certificate. Bummer!

One of these days when I get over to a Personnel Office on an AFB, I'll have to check if I can get an "first class upgrade" to GWB. :-)

66 posted on 04/10/2003 1:42:26 PM PDT by hattend
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To: baseballmom
OK, so I'm a bad person. I left this on my monitor when I saw an Army retiree coworker approaching. He noticed it over my shoulder. Read it.

There was bad language. Shouting. I believe I saw a little blood vessel on his forehead throbbing...

67 posted on 04/10/2003 1:42:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: baseballmom
Like the scene in "Primary Colors" where the candidate's wife finds the cell phone in the brush next to the road.

"You never woulda found it if i hadn't thrown it out the window."

68 posted on 04/10/2003 1:47:41 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: baseballmom
The reality is that Bill Clinton's defense budgets roughly tracked the blueprint left by then-defense secretary Dick Cheney in 1992.

Seems to me that the author's arguments point to Dick Cheney (and Bush I) as being responsible for today's military successes.

69 posted on 04/10/2003 1:48:22 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: baseballmom
Only one question. If Clinton did what the writer said he did, why did he not employ it after every terrorist attack on his watch?

Truth is, every weapons system takes years from design to employment, so much of what we have is from before Clinton.
70 posted on 04/10/2003 1:49:47 PM PDT by KeyWest
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To: baseballmom
During the last decade the advances in computer technology that made possible these advances in weapons would have occurred regardless of who was in the White House. On the other hand, if the Clinton administration had been serious about fighting terrorism after the first WTC bombing, Iraq would have already been dealt with.
71 posted on 04/10/2003 1:55:18 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Rest in pieces Saddam!)
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To: 3AngelaD
You're right. Besides, most of the technology we use in today's military takes a number of years to go from idea to drawing board to testing to procurement and finally to battlefield. The B-1 bomber? Reagan-era. Insistence on smart bombs? Reagan-era. These lefties are scum who will favor leaving a murderous tyrant in office, then turn around and take credit for removing him. Clinton tried cutting defense budgets and didn't really care about building up the military. As far as lefties go, Gary Hart had more to do with today's military than Beelzebubba - he's been championing much of the high tech gadgetry that we have (not that I'm a Gary Hart fan). We were lucky to have a military by the time Beelzebubba left office!
72 posted on 04/10/2003 1:59:21 PM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: mystery-ak
I know of an Air Force officer eligible for retirement who DID NOT retire until Clinton left office because he didn't want to get the customary retirement letter/certificate which comes from the President in office. He actually put off retiring for one year because he couldn't stand the thought of getting anything with Clinton's name or signature on it.
73 posted on 04/10/2003 2:01:56 PM PDT by RooRoobird14 (It's purple Koolaid time for the "Blame America First " crowd!!!)
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To: baseballmom
Please, POST BARF ALERTS... :)
74 posted on 04/10/2003 2:04:36 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: Billthedrill
I hate to admit this, but it sounds like the author may have a point..

What can be said about our new technology during the Clinton era? Do you know?

Personally, I have no idea. All I ever heard Clinton do was run down morale, give everyone black berets and implement "don't ask, don't tell"

Could there be some ray of truth to the idea that he advanced our military in some way during this period?

If he did, I won't deny him the credit for it. It's just that thinking back on, I can't remember him doing anything other than what's listed above. I certainly don't remember him funneling money into improvements.

????

75 posted on 04/10/2003 2:12:14 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Well, go on.. Get yourself on over to the fundraiser thread and donate to FR!)
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To: baseballmom
Matthew Miller was a major league Clinton suck who wrote an article in 1998 asking "Could president sue Starr for loss of second term?"

Clinton probably wrote this "opinion piece" and the ever-helpful Miller would cheerfully publish it under his name.

76 posted on 04/10/2003 2:13:18 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Jhoffa_
see my post #76 ;-)
77 posted on 04/10/2003 2:14:44 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: baseballmom
xxxlinton will start using this idea now that someone thought it up for him ....
78 posted on 04/10/2003 2:16:58 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: baseballmom
Amazing...simply amazing.

The Left insists that Clinton is free of guilt or fault for his dereliction of duty in the events that culminated with 9/11/2001, yet insists that he must be given credit for the state of our military in March-April of 2003.

Sorry, Charlie...you can't have it both ways. If you want your poster boy to get credit, he's going to have to take the blame as well. And if you insist that he's blameless, then he is not due any credit whatsoever.

-Jay
79 posted on 04/10/2003 2:21:33 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
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To: baseballmom
Of course, this idiot gives no credit to the Republicans taking over Congress in 1994.
80 posted on 04/10/2003 2:22:41 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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