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Baghdad - Capital Has Look of a Battlefield (NYT - John F. Burns)
New York times ^ | April 8, 2003 | John F. Burns

Posted on 04/07/2003 9:52:09 PM PDT by HAL9000

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Tuesday, April 8 ? Gunfire erupted on the grounds of the Republican Palace early this morning, almost 24 hours after an American tank column entered the compound, which has been repeatedly bombed by allied planes since the war began. The explosions shook awake residents of a city that has now come to resemble a battlefield, with Iraqi special forces and militiamen taking up position on crucial streets and bridges.

Shortly after the mortar fire and other explosions around 4:50 a.m., a fire burned in the palace compound on the west bank of the Tigris River. American troops and tanks from the Third Infantry Division had rumbled in there on Monday morning as more than 1,000 marines battled their way across the Diyala River in the southeast of the city. Dozens of Iraqi soldiers were killed Monday in the fighting.

At Al Kindi Hospital, officials said at least 75 civilians were brought in on Monday with various injuries.

Iraqi forces defending the city center from the east bank of the Tigris fired back at the Americans with artillery and rocket-propelled grenades, but as night fell on Monday, some American troops remained in the bombed palaces in the compound, the Iraqi equivalent of the White House, which once symbolized President Saddam Hussein's absolute power.

At least nine people died, Iraqi officials said, in an attack that left a deep crater in the upscale Mansur neighborhood of the city.

In Washington, American officials said hours later that they had tried to kill Mr. Hussein in a strike on the same neighborhood. There was no indication here that Mr. Hussein or any member of his family had suffered.

In clear view across the river from the Palestine Hotel, two American Abrams tanks idled on the embankment Monday morning at the point where the sprawling palace grounds meet a bend in the Tigris.

A squad of American infantrymen in light brown camouflage uniforms, with flak jackets and combat rifles, scoured the cluster of date palms between the palaces and the water.

At one moment a group of about 20 Iraqi soldiers could be seen scurrying away from the tanks, up the riverbank to the north, only one of them carrying a rifle and several wearing nothing but boxer shorts.

Reaching a slipway guarded on their approach by a fence running down into the water, some of the men plunged into the river and began swimming upstream. The Americans opened fire, throwing cascades of water into the air but not, apparently, striking any of the men.

A minute or two later, huts along the sandspit near the Americans exploded into infernos, followed by the pop-pop of exploding munitions.

The scene seemed to illustrate the plight of Mr. Hussein's government, whose army has mustered little effective resistance in the capital despite much oratory about the grim fate awaiting American soldiers. That official defiance continued despite the Americans' increasingly incontrovertible presence.

On the eastern bank of the Tigris, a semblance of normality persisted. Cafes were still thronged with people and street vendors did their trade. But passage across the river was tightly controlled by militiamen.

Most of the city has been without electricity and water for a week. Working telephone lines are scarce. Long lines formed Monday outside the offices of the International Committee of the Red Cross as people waited to place international calls. Bus stations were full of people trying to leave, but buses were scarce.

As for the government, it showed no sign of wavering. Less than two hours after the American incursion began, the Iraqi information minister, Muhammad Said al-Sahhaf, was at the television networks' "stand-up" positions on the second-story roof of the Palestine Hotel's conference center, to insist that the reporters had not seen what they thought.

If reporters believed that they had witnessed an American drive deep into the heart of the capital, Mr. Sahhaf, in the green uniform and black beret of the ruling Baath Party, wished to disabuse them.

He implied that they, and American military commanders, were hallucinating about the tanks.

"They are really sick in their minds," he said. "They said they entered with 65 tanks into the center of the capital. I inform you that this is too far from the reality. This story is part of their sickness. The real truth is that there was no entry of American or British troops into Baghdad at all." The truth, he said, was that the Americans had pushed only a short distance out of the airport into a suburb where they had been surrounded by Iraqi troops, with "three-quarters of them slaughtered."

American television images of soldiers surrounded by the marbled sumptuousness of Mr. Hussein's palace, Mr. Sahhaf said, were shot in "the reception hall" of the airport. "They are just cheap liars!" he said.

To that, Mr. Sahhaf added a genial word of advice for reporters. "Just make sure to be accurate," he said. "Don't repeat their lies. Otherwise you will play a marketing role for the Americans," just as ? he said ? the Arab television channel Al Jazeera had done, with live reports of the Americans entering the presidential area, the Rashid Hotel complex and the Information Ministry.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baghdad; fallofbaghdad; iraq; johnfburns; saddamhussein

1 posted on 04/07/2003 9:52:09 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
Normally when you drop a lot of bombs on a place then ride tanks through it that may or may not be shooting at things, yes Virginia, it would give the appearance of a battlefield, or did I miss something?
2 posted on 04/07/2003 10:13:14 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Served in Korea, Vietnam and still fighting America's enemies on Home Front)
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To: HAL9000
Gunfire erupted on the grounds of the Republican Palace

Didn't know the GOP owned those.

3 posted on 04/07/2003 10:14:57 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: HAL9000
Baghdad- Capital has look of battlefield

Well . . . isn't it one? What became of this newspaper?

I wonder how much the NYT editorial room looks like a battlefield, or the aftermath of one.

4 posted on 04/07/2003 10:15:28 PM PDT by RLJVet
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To: HAL9000
They are really sick in their minds," he said. "They said they entered with 65 tanks into the center of the capital. I inform you that this is too far from the reality."

When hes captured, he'll report: "This is not an American POW truck I am being moved in and these are not shackles on my hands and feet. I inform you that you are hallucinating, and that we are on the verge of driving the Yankee aggressors into the sea."
5 posted on 04/07/2003 10:38:29 PM PDT by Chirodoc
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To: HAL9000
Well DUH. Let's see, we are at war and Baghdad is the capitol city.
6 posted on 04/07/2003 11:02:52 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: HAL9000
Just out of curiosity, are you using Safari as your browser?
7 posted on 04/07/2003 11:03:55 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: HAL9000
Is this the same TIME magazine that published this story just today:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/887336/posts

Their credibility is nill.
8 posted on 04/07/2003 11:06:06 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Timesink
Just out of curiosity, are you using Safari as your browser?

The question marks gave it away, eh?

9 posted on 04/07/2003 11:28:15 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
Ding. I was just making sure I wasn't the only one with that problem.
10 posted on 04/07/2003 11:29:46 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: spodefly
Is this the same TIME magazine that published this story just today:

No, this article was from The New York Times, not TIME magazine.

11 posted on 04/07/2003 11:30:50 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Timesink
A split second after hitting the Post button, I saw those stupid question marks. Argh.

I've been using BBEdit to filter those problems out, but forget to check this time.

12 posted on 04/07/2003 11:34:34 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
I've been using BBEdit to filter those problems out, but forget to check this time.

You've got some doodad that goes through BBEdit to post? What is it? Those ?s are driving me nuts.

13 posted on 04/07/2003 11:38:33 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
You've got some doodad that goes through BBEdit to post? What is it?

I'm just the Find and Replace command for most NYT posts, usually replacing "?" with "-". It's a nuisance: select and copy NYT, paste into FR, preview, edit, select all, cut, paste into BBEdit Lite, Find and Replace question marks, select all, cut, paste into FR, post.

I'll be glad when the next beta version of Safari is released and hopefully fixes the problem. Everything else about Safari is great.

BBEdit does have a "Zap Grimlins" command that helps clean up some text, but not NYT posts.

15 posted on 04/07/2003 11:56:23 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
That's what I get for posting when I should be sleeping.

BUMP
16 posted on 04/08/2003 5:49:49 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: HAL9000
I'm just the Find and Replace command for most NYT posts, usually replacing "?" with "-". It's a nuisance: select and copy NYT, paste into FR, preview, edit, select all, cut, paste into BBEdit Lite, Find and Replace question marks, select all, cut, paste into FR, post....

A belated thank you for the info!

17 posted on 04/12/2003 5:21:16 PM PDT by Timesink
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