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Bush Mix of God and War Grates on Many Europeans
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 4/4/03 | Tom Heneghan

Posted on 04/06/2003 10:08:46 AM PDT by marshmallow

PARIS (Reuters) - The religious overtones in President Bush (news - web sites)'s speeches increasingly grate on many ears in Europe, where leaders invoking God in times of war are widely suspect of misusing faith for political purposes.

No less than the German president, French prime minister and Belgian foreign minister have joined religious leaders in expressing concern about Bush's beliefs and the place of religion in U.S. politics.

Media commentators, especially in northern European countries with Protestant heritages, have branded Bush's evangelical views as Christian fundamentalism, with some even comparing them to the Islamic fundamentalism of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites).

The discussion reflects both the widespread popular anti-war sentiment in Europe and the deeper gulf between a continent where faith is on the wane and an America where religious values probably play a more prominent political role than ever before.

German President Johannes Rau, a Protestant preacher's son who makes no secret of his own faith, reacted sharply this week on n-tv television to press reports that Bush believed defeating Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was part of a divine plan.

"George Bush has got a completely one-sided message. I don't think a people gets a sign from God to liberate another people," he said. "Nowhere does the Bible call for crusades."

Belgian Foreign Minister Louis Michel, a vocal critic of the war, said before hostilities broke out last month that he saw Christian fundamentalism gaining influence in Washington and added: "That is, of course, a dangerous point of departure."

French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin, asked about a U.S. weekly's cover story on Bush and God, told Le Point magazine: "In no way can God be called on for a vote of confidence."

UNEASE AT GOD TALK

Bush's firm faith, rooted in an evangelical Protestantism that reflects an important voter bloc in his Republican party, has also prompted questions in mainstream U.S. media about how much it colors his stand on Iraq (news - web sites) and his war on terror.

In his speeches, he has asked for guidance from "the loving God behind all of life and all of history," hinted he believed there was a "divine plan" for the world and warned Americans that "we are in a conflict between good and evil."

These references may not seem so out of place in the United States, where all presidents say "God bless America" and "In God We Trust" is emblazoned on dollar bills.

But they stand out and sometimes even shock many Europeans who remember how German soldiers trooped off to World War One with "Gott mit uns" (God with us) stamped on their belt buckles.

"I believe George Bush's religious views are genuine," Cardinal Karl Lehmann, head of the German Bishop's Conference, told the Catholic weekly Rheinischer Merkur in an interview on Thursday. "But this careless way of using religious language is not acceptable anymore in today's world."

In Sweden, invoking God in politics is so unusual that parliamentarian Hans Lindqvist told Reuters: "I've never seen anything like this before."

Commentators in Britain, where Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites)'s firm but discreet Christian beliefs have also aroused critical attention, have described Bush as "chaplain in chief" and analyzed his use of religious phrases and images in detail.

"For world-weary Europe, the presidential language evokes mirth and queasiness in equal measure," The Independent wrote.

In France, where even practicing Catholic or Jewish politicians shrink from mentioning religion, the daily Le Monde reacted sharply last week to the news that the U.S. House of Representatives had called for a day of national prayer and fasting to secure divine blessings for U.S. troops in Iraq.

"This bizarre approach shocks Europeans," it said in an editorial. Its religion correspondent accused Bush and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein of "gross misuse" of religion.

"One is tempted to say the destiny of America is in the hands of a small group of Protestant bigots," Henri Tincq wrote.

The religious side of Bush's thinking has attracted much less public attention in traditionally Catholic countries such as Ireland, Italy and Spain, where the Roman church has lost most of the vast influence it used to wield in secular affairs.

Media there have focused mostly on whether the Iraq conflict is a just war, sometimes quoting the pronounced anti-war stand of Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II.

Russia, which in its old communist days might have churned out caustic criticism about the White House and "the opium of the people," has also shown little interest in Bush's beliefs.

"Politicians now routinely invoke God and Orthodoxy for all sorts of things," one longtime foreign resident remarked. "You can't open a billiard hall without an Orthodox priest present." (Additional reporting by Bart Crols in Brussels, Andrew Hay in London, Erik Kirschbaum in Berlin, Patrick McLoughlin in Stockholm, Ron Popeski in Moscow, Carlos Santamaria in Madrid, Estelle Shirbon in Rome and Kevin Smith in Dublin)


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KEYWORDS: bushandgod; commanderinchief; faith; iraqifreedom; worldopinion
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1 posted on 04/06/2003 10:08:46 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
God bless America!
2 posted on 04/06/2003 10:11:41 AM PDT by Nagual
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To: marshmallow
Bush Mix of God and War Grates on Many Europeans

TFB

3 posted on 04/06/2003 10:12:22 AM PDT by glockmeister40
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To: marshmallow
In God We Trust.
4 posted on 04/06/2003 10:13:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: marshmallow
Interesting.. I sure haven't heard the Europeans reprimanding the Muslims for their "God" talk..
5 posted on 04/06/2003 10:16:18 AM PDT by Zipporah
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To: marshmallow
"No less than the German president, French prime minister and Belgian foreign minister have joined religious leaders in expressing concern about Bush's beliefs..."

Old Europe doesn't seem to be very interested in reconciling their differences with the U.S. after the Iraq war, much less in "tolerating" the faiths of others.

That's just so... liberal.

6 posted on 04/06/2003 10:17:59 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: marshmallow
Satan's ears burn with the name of Jesus...imagine his followers/fellow travelers/cheerleaders aint to happy to hear it either
7 posted on 04/06/2003 10:18:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
God Bless America!

BTW, my church had a special sermon explaining where and how Christianity justifies a war. And how we should answer the nonviolent protest 'turn the other cheek' as being applicable to individuals. Our governments are a different matter. They have the God-given duty to protect us and fight evil.

All of the societies that want to push God out of the decision-making of our leaders can follow the U.S. or get out of the way!

-- Joe
8 posted on 04/06/2003 10:18:22 AM PDT by Joe Republc
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To: marshmallow
Not very diverse and accepting.

I guess that's because Methodists don't (usually) react to insults by gutting people or stoning them. Now..if we were more like the Religion o' Peace in Europe calling for sharia law and raping women who wear shorts during the summer maybe they would respect us.

The French certainly seem to tiptoe around any mention of that other religion...
9 posted on 04/06/2003 10:18:59 AM PDT by OpusatFR (How can war protesters support Saddam when he is killing his own people! What sort of evil are you?)
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To: marshmallow
Good. I hope the Euros are so pissed off that they can't even see straight.

If citing religion in a speech so angers the Europeans, I wonder how they feel about being rendered instantly irrelevent as a world power by America's decision to go to war against EU/NATO's wishes.

10 posted on 04/06/2003 10:19:05 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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Good Lord, what a sorry pack of whiners.
11 posted on 04/06/2003 10:19:27 AM PDT by dighton (Amen-Corner Hatchet Team, Nasty Little Clique, Vulgar Horde)
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No less than the German president, French prime minister and Belgian foreign minister have joined religious leaders in expressing concern about Bush's beliefs and the place of religion in U.S. politics.

The Axis of Whiners.

Who cares what they think?

12 posted on 04/06/2003 10:22:18 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: marshmallow
Along with this, I've found that heathens often think they can push Christians around, sometimes trying to manipulate them using the Bible (which they don't understand). When they discover that Christians are not the pushovers they anticipate they become enraged. That's the sort of rage I see now in post-Christian Europe, as well as America.
13 posted on 04/06/2003 10:23:07 AM PDT by DensaMensa (He who controls the definitions controls history. He who controls the past controls the future.)
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To: marshmallow
"The religious overtones in President Bush (news - web sites)'s speeches increasingly grate on many ears in Europe, where leaders invoking God in times of war are widely suspect of misusing faith for political purposes."

Uhhhh ... What the f*** d'ya' think we've been all about these last 300 years or so?

14 posted on 04/06/2003 10:24:28 AM PDT by knarf (RA 11448419)
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To: marshmallow
I just read in "Reagan's War" that during Vietnam LBJ didn't bomb on Sunday's. I wonder if these same critics of Bush are bothered that LBJ observed the Sabbath in this way?
15 posted on 04/06/2003 10:25:45 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: marshmallow
Inalienable rights is a "religious view" that grates the eurotrash. Who gives a damn what grates them.
16 posted on 04/06/2003 10:27:43 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: marshmallow
Bush Mix of God and War Grates on Many Europeans

Personally, I find the German mix of peace and known terrorist associates (Fischer) grating in the extreme.

17 posted on 04/06/2003 10:28:02 AM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: marshmallow
The last time the Germans had a "problem" with someones "God" they decided to solve their "problem" by killing them. By the millions. And this was just a few years back.

I don't care what the Germans think.

18 posted on 04/06/2003 10:28:13 AM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: Nagual
Remember, socialism has replaced Christianity as the main religion in Europe. That is NOT an exaggeration; They'll even admit it to your face.
19 posted on 04/06/2003 10:29:44 AM PDT by MarylandPines
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To: Zipporah
Interesting.. I sure haven't heard the Europeans reprimanding the Muslims for their "God" talk..

Isn't it?

Isn't their stated deference to Muslims' religious beliefs the Europeans' justification for letting themselves be swamped with immigrants who refuse to assimilate?

Spineless snots.

20 posted on 04/06/2003 10:29:46 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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